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    Quote Originally Posted by dpeilow View Post
    No, it's not journalism. Unfortunately.
    You're right. I should have written "journalism". I have respect for the job real journalists do into looking into the important issues and who take their job and their accuracy in reporting seriously.

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    Found this
    Start-Up Handles Social Media Background Checks - NYTimes.com

    older article but hardly surprising that his business is on the slightly shady side of things. Perfectly legal but seems to fit his character.

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    No news there - was well covered at the time.

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    Ever wonder how someone would feel if they had all their money tied up in company A and company T was about to produce a product that utilized a competing technology that would effectively drive the former company out of business?

    Looked up some Axion Power faq's and it only took one to see what's going on...

    AXION POWER INTL INC Stock Chart | AXPW Interactive Chart - Yahoo! Finance

    Didn't know the stock had tanked since it's inception and is losing ground to it's competitors...

    So why hasn't this product tech helped? : Axion Power, Rosewater Energy Group Developing A Power Quality And Energy Storage Cube For The Residential Market - Yahoo! Finance

    Hmmm, wonder if that product would compete with another companies storage product?

    U.S. DOE Awards Grant to Axion Power International to Fund Commercialization Plan for PbC® Batteries In Micro-Hybrid Vehicles - Yahoo! Finance

    "This is a very important grant for Axion Power, not just for the financial assistance being provided, but for the acknowledgement by the DOE of the potential benefits of our PbC technology in new and innovative constructs and designs," Granville said. "Our technology is ideal for the new world of environmentally friendly, technologically advanced automotive vehicles. Our PbC batteries test out at a consistent high rate of charge acceptance for upwards of 5 years of usage. PbC's can be recharged quickly, have a proven safety record and are 100 percent recyclable - unlike some of the more exotic chemistries like lithium-ion batteries. We look forward to working closely with the DOE to demonstrate different potential applications that our PbC batteries offer for the hybrid and micro-hybrid markets."

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    A new book, Green Illusions takes shots at a number of technologies, from solar to EV's. I haven't read it yet but the description and reviews suggest he's anti technology, and I expect his work to be used by some to discredit EV's. I do agree that without a reduction in consumption and population no technology can save us, but that doesn't mean more efficient technology has no place.

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    There has been a lot of talk of repurposing spent EV batteries for utility storage. If this is the case, then Axion Power is facing huge competition from EVs in all aspects, especially when you consider that second life batteries will be much cheaper than new PbC batteries. Also, if EVs take off, micro-hybrids will be largely ignored as well. JP is a fool if he doesn't realize this, which is why he has such an agenda against EVs in my opinion.

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    Finally a logical fact based article on seeking alpha:

    EV Myths And Realities, Part 2: Green As The Grid - Seeking Alpha

    Some of the comments are unreal. Some admit to not reading the article and insist he is wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local host View Post
    Finally a logical fact based article on seeking alpha:

    EV Myths And Realities, Part 2: Green As The Grid - Seeking Alpha

    Some of the comments are unreal. Some admit to not reading the article and insist he is wrong!
    Great article with nice sources the illustrate the marginal mix of electricity. Much better than Glenn's article which had the forgone conclusion that EVs must always be the marginal load and that only coal and natural gas will ever be used to power it (no references cited at all either).
    Because there are tons of crazy people in this world...

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    Well Nick does not disagree that either coal and NG will be used for marginal load, he just projects that it will be mostly NG going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    Well Nick does not disagree that either coal and NG will be used for marginal load, he just projects that it will be mostly NG going forward.
    I think the implicit assumption of Nick's graph of marginal emissions going 100 years into the future is that marginal load will be neither coal or NG because he figures 220g CO2/kWh by 2050 and 50 gCO2/kWh by 2100, which is not achieve-able with NG because 100% efficient combustion of NG gives 198g CO2/kWh.
    Last edited by stopcrazypp; 06-25-2012 at 06:56 PM.
    Because there are tons of crazy people in this world...

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