New EPA sticker are announced for feedabck

[doug]

They nixed the letter grades.

[mt2]

I don't like the way Consumer Reports clarified that zero emissions does not consider how the power is generated. Sure, they pointed out that how clean the electricity is generated depends on where you live. But if you are going to invoke the long-tailpipe discussion, you should frame it as well-to-wheel and point out that gasoline production has emissions also.

I understand where Consumer Reports is coming from. They felt compelled to point out that a perfect 10 for emissions doesn't mean there aren't downstream emissions. But it is certainly out of context of the article to get into the whole 'electricity is better than gas' argument. So at least refer to Tesla Motor's well-to-wheel research and play it down as something they haven't independently verified.

I would have commented, but I let my Consumer Reports on-line subscription lapse.

[vfx]

Good point Mark. Also it does not mention that a homeowner can generate their own power.

[Slackjaw]

This actually has some useful info on it and might save a few minutes of Tesla Time if people can read it for themselves...

Extreme window sticker: Tesla Roadster rated 119 MPGe

Text of article:

At an event in Palo Alto this afternoon, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) released its highest mileage window sticker yet - for the Tesla Roadster.

The sticker for the Roadster 2.5 shows 119 miles per gallon equivalent: 112 MPGe on the highway and 124 MPGe in the city. In addition, it shows the Tesla Roadster will go 245 miles on an eight-hour charge. The EPA’s 245-mile figure is what Tesla uses for its own range claims. (We haven’t tested the $120,000 sports car, so can’t vouch for either the range or energy usage figures.)

I love the way the sticker says "The best vehicle rates 99 MPGe" right next to the 119 MPGe. So it means the Roadster is "Better than the best".

P.S. If anyone can find a high quality PDF of that sticker please post a link. I can't find it but would love to have a few to hand out!

[Edit: P.P.S... Sorry, only just saw the original thread by vfx on this. ... Admins can delete this new thread if desired]

[vfx]

The Roadster gives 120 percent!

[eeenmachine]

I'm going to print this out to display on my roadster at an electric car show in Encinitas, CA tonight. Anyone been able to find a higher resolution image?

[tdelta1000]

That report puts Tesla Motors on top with the Roadster 119 MPGe rating and it validates the claims of going 245 miles on a single charge.

[strider]

Hmm. Also, on PG&E's EV rate, I'm only paying $0.056/kWh when charging at night so my savings would double! :P And it looks like the benchmark gas price is $3.70/gallon so in Cali there's more savings there as gas costs more than that here.

[AndrewBissell]

Isn't it amazing that the most energy efficient car on the market is also one of the best performing. Really rams home the fundamental advantages of electric drive.

[TEG]

Isn't it amazing that the most energy efficient car on the market is also one of the best performing. Really rams home the fundamental advantages of electric drive.

Hmm. Also, on PG&E's EV rate, I'm only paying $0.056/kWh when charging at night so my savings would double! :P And it looks like the benchmark gas price is $3.70/gallon so in Cali there's more savings there as gas costs more than that here.

Win! Win!