The New RAV4 EV

[spleen]

Hi Evan,

I assume those 44-50 hours is based on Level I charging. Does that portable charger also handle 240 volts?

Larry

The 120V EVSE shown at 3:34 in the video is the same J-1772 model supplied with the Plug in Prius, I know because I currently own a 2012 Plug in Prius... It's only capable of 12A 120V operation, unless you send it off to evseupgrade to be upgraded to handle 12A 240V operation (for $239)
Mitch
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Larry - According to what Mitch said here, if it is the same EVSE as the PIP, then it's only 120V (but could be upgradable by 3rd party solutions - Ingineer's EVSEupgrade program is pretty slick).

I would doubt that Toyota would supply a built in 240V solution, no mainstream car manufacturer to date has supplied a 240V solution AFAIK with the car, it's always been extra (Leaf, Volt, PIP). Not sure about the MIEV.

[vfx]

This just appears as a black box. Is there a link?

[Lloyd]

Looks fine for me

[Larry Chanin]

Larry - According to what Mitch said here, if it is the same EVSE as the PIP, then it's only 120V (but could be upgradable by 3rd party solutions - Ingineer's EVSEupgrade program is pretty slick).

I would doubt that Toyota would supply a built in 240V solution, no mainstream car manufacturer to date has supplied a 240V solution AFAIK with the car, it's always been extra (Leaf, Volt, PIP). Not sure about the MIEV.

Thanks. I should have read Mitch's post.

This just underlines how dubious Toyota's approach is to charging this car. The Plug in Prius approach is inappropriate to be applied to this car whose range is almost an order of magnitude greater than the PiP. I certainly hope that if Toyota decides to expand beyond a compliance car, that they will seriously revisit their approach to charging. I wonder whether it is even possible for Tesla to obtain UL certification of the UMC?

Larry

[spleen]

Thanks. I should have read Mitch's post.

This just underlines how dubious Toyota's approach is to charging this car. The Plug in Prius approach is inappropriate to be applied to this car whose range is almost an order of magnitude greater than the PiP. I certainly hope that if Toyota decides to expand beyond a compliance car, that they will seriously revisit their approach to charging. I wonder whether it is even possible for Tesla to obtain UL certification of the UMC?

Larry

Agreed. I think that the expectation of the owner is that they will be installing a 240V J1772 EVSE in their garage for home charging purposes, in the same way that Nissan partnered with Aeroviroment to supply the "official" charging solution. Given the low volume of units expected to be sold, it's quite possible that their strategy has not been thought through all the way as well. As for the UMC, no reason why Tesla couldn't submit it for UL certification, I suppose, but they may have figured that it wasn't worth the cost since Tesla customers aren't going to be shopping around for other solutions.

[Tommy]

As for the UMC, no reason why Tesla couldn't submit it for UL certification, I suppose, but they may have figured that it wasn't worth the cost since Tesla customers aren't going to be shopping around for other solutions.

From the research I have done, the UMC will be required to have UL certification (see NEC 625).

[spleen]

From the research I have done, the UMC will be required to have UL certification (see NEC 625).

Does the current Roadster UMC have UL certification?

[Doug_G]

Does the current Roadster UMC have UL certification?

It might not be - cars are not subject to the same rules.

[Tommy]

Does the current Roadster UMC have UL certification?

I don't know if the Roadster UMC is UL certified. From what I have read a EVSE, which the UMC is, needs be UL labeled. Whether that is a certification or just a listing, that I don't know.

[mitch672]

This just appears as a black box. Is there a link?

vfx, I put the link at the bottom of post #685 above, here it is again:
Toyota Videos Spread The Word On RAV4 EV | Hybrid Cars