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    Dave Lee (in the video above) is an extremely knowledgeable guy and always does a great job of translating technical engineering things into lay language, but can just as easily switch back to high tech engineer talk.
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    "Superior range to any other EV on the market".... ahem, I guess he hasn't heard of the Model S?

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    The comments from the Toyota engineers about the Tesla engineers, in the video, are amazing! If the wall street guys watched that video, it would turn some heads about the prospects of Tesla generally. It is very hard to get any engineers over the "Not Invented Here" barrier, to do that, and them have them say it on camera is quite stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    "Superior range to any other EV on the market".... ahem, I guess he hasn't heard of the Model S?
    I'd have to watch again to see if that's exactly what he said. But at our presentation he was very careful to specify "EV SUV"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vger View Post
    The comments from the Toyota engineers about the Tesla engineers, in the video, are amazing! If the wall street guys watched that video, it would turn some heads about the prospects of Tesla generally. It is very hard to get any engineers over the "Not Invented Here" barrier, to do that, and them have them say it on camera is quite stunning.
    Yes, I agree that video was very impressive in demonstrating the power of effective collaboration. It makes me recollect that offhand remark that Elon made about a potential billion dollar deal with Toyota when he first announced the agreement. It looks like the RAVA4 EV is starting to get excellent reviews. That potential deal would look a lot more likely if Toyota hadn't taken the conservative approach to start off with a compliance vehicle. I hope the good reviews induce them to shift to a more aggressive multi-state roll-out. A ramp up in production might permit a slight reduction in pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Chanin View Post
    That potential deal would look a lot more likely if Toyota hadn't taken the conservative approach to start off with a compliance vehicle. I hope the good reviews induce them to shift to a more aggressive multi-state roll-out.
    My belief is that if Toyota can get the California EV law repealed, they'll take the RAV4-EV off the streets as fast as they can--just like the last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry33 View Post
    My belief is that if Toyota can get the California EV law repealed, they'll take the RAV4-EV off the streets as fast as they can--just like the last time.
    Hi Jerry,

    Is that because you believe that they are losing money on each car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by efusco View Post
    I'd have to watch again to see if that's exactly what he said. But at our presentation he was very careful to specify "EV SUV"
    Not this time. Last few seconds of the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstp View Post
    Great video (even with the false claim of "more range than any other EV"). The RAV looks like quite the awesome EV. I wish it was available nationwide, and in other countries as well.

    GSP

    PS. I really like the sport mode, the "charge by departure time" option, all the passenger and cargo space, the triple digit range, the UMC-like EVSE (lying in the trunk), the LED lighting, the seat fabric, the.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSP View Post
    [snip] ...the UMC-like EVSE (lying in the trunk)
    The 120V EVSE shown at 3:34 in the video is the same J-1772 model supplied with the Plug in Prius, I know because I currently own a 2012 Plug in Prius... It's only capable of 12A 120V operation, unless you send it off to evseupgrade to be upgraded to handle 12A 240V operation (for $239)

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    You can also just buy a standard wall mounted J-1772 EVSE. It's a bit disappointing they chose to only supply a 12A 120V EVSE, not a real "UMC" capable dual voltage portable EVSE, but it is a compliance car, with a 3 year 2,600 unit production #

    This also makes me wonder what KW rating the onboard charger is now, if it was 10KW, you would think they should supply a more capable EVSE.

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