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    Yeah... last I heard I was still the owner with the most milage: around 30,000 miles

    No significant difference in battery that I can tell at this point.

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    I noticed he mentioned "Who killed the Electric Car?" at 7:37 saying that California imposed a law stating that if a manufacture did not create a zero-emission vehicle, such as an EV, they couldn't sell cars in California. Too bad this law wasn't on a federal level.

    I know that the EV1s were destroyed after this law was repealed but is that law the reason Toyota came out with the RAV4-EV?
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    I like his little sound test at the end. Gas car ... electric car ... gas car ... electric car ... gas car ... electric car ... Not too scientific, but it does prove a point

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    I know that the EV1s were destroyed after this law was repealed but is that law the reason Toyota came out with the RAV4-EV?
    I would think so. And the Ford Ranger EV. And the Nissan Altra. And the Honda EV+.
    All of those were basically rush efforts to satisfy CARB by making a bunch of low volume prototypes not practical for mass production. The Rav4-EV and Ranger-EV for instance were not very aerodynamically optimized which is really needed in an EV where range per charge is critical.

    The EV1 was perhaps the most evolved and sophisticated of the bunch and part of the reason why CARB thought a mandate was the right thing to do. ("If they can be this good, then lets make sure to make a lot...") GM had some technology lead at that point, but didn't really seem to have their corporate heart in seeing it through as a mainstream production direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEG View Post
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    The EV1 was perhaps the most evolved and sophisticated of the bunch and part of the reason why CARB thought a mandate was the right thing to do. ...
    Technically it was the Impact the pre-EV-1 that precipitated the CARB mandate.

    The world loves to be deceived.


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    I like his little sound test at the end. Gas car ... electric car ... gas car ... electric car ... gas car ... electric car ... Not too scientific, but it does prove a point
    Absolutely it does - that ICE cars have quieted down so much recently, all you can make out are the tires rubbing the asphalt. The whole electric-cars-are-too-quiet paranoia is so ignorant, in my opinion.
    I've got 'til 2012 to figure out how I'm gonna charge my S with no driveway or garage

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    New episode

    Round-up of various EV items inc. Imperial College Students' Pan-American EV journey, a Range Rover EV conversion, the Peugeot eExpert Tepee van, the Brighton to London EV rally.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/fullycha.../4/IMVGLxXmpgA

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