BYD hybrid can supply power for appliances, MX should have similar feature?

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Danal said:

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This New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any vehicle damage or malfunction directly or indirectly caused by, due to or resulting from normal wear or deterioration, abuse, misuse, negligence, accident, improper maintenance, operation, storage or transport, including, but not limited to, any of the following:
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• Using the vehicle as a stationary power source; ....

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That just means they aren't responsible for damage caused by tapping into the battery (traction or 12V) to use for appliances or home backups. This doesn't mean it voids the warranty if you use them.

I've always thought using a ~3kW inverter would be awesome to have connected to the 12V terminals. People do it all the time with other EVs. Just make sure the car is "on" where the DC-DC converter is actively keeping the 12V battery charged.

And yeah, V2G would be awesome to have for the MX or MS in the future.

The 12V terminals are protected by a 50 amp fuse, as found by someone on the forums. Keep it to 600W or less, unless you want to experience the wonderful Tesla Service experience.

There have been rumors that Tesla is considering V2G as part of its broader strategy that includes the home batteries (10 kWh units) and such; for now, however, putting energy into the car means for the car's use only.

Already been done for the S by Artsci

Chris TX said:

That just means they aren't responsible for damage caused by tapping into the battery (traction or 12V) to use for appliances or home backups. This doesn't mean it voids the warranty if you use them. I've always thought using a ~3kW inverter would be awesome to have connected to the 12V terminals. People do it all the time with other EVs. Just make sure the car is "on" where the DC-DC converter is actively keeping the 12V battery charged.And yeah, V2G would be awesome to have for the MX or MS in the future.

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I'm pretty sure that a 3 kW inverter will kill any of the current EVs - at least, if you have a sustained 3 kW load attached to it. The Volt has the most powerful DC-DC converter I've seen specs for in the current generation, and it is only rated for 175 amps - about 2 kW - and the car uses a few hundred watts sitting at idle. Drawing more than the converter can handle will discharge the 12V battery; on a Volt with a 3 kW load it'd take about half an hour (60 Ah rated AGM battery, ~1.25 kW remaining load,) after which the car will be unusable (the contactors will open to protect the big battery when 12V power fails,) - if none of the electronics are damaged (no bets either way) it can be 'fixed' by recharging the 12V - assuming the inverter shuts off before the battery is damaged. Regardless, not a situation you want to be in during a power failure...Walter

Some places report DC-DC inverter with a fuse of 250 amps. So can assume it can generate 3kW. Can't any definitive reports of people using 2k, 2.5k or 3kW inverters.