Next Gen Seats VS Non NG Seats rearview obstruction

Fezzik · Jan 22, 2015

I had my p85d in for service for a small draft in the drivers window and a rattle in the sunroof (both fixed quickly) and I was given a 85 loaner. I know there was some debate on the size of the middle seat obstruction of the view so I figured take a pic of non next gen (1.5) vs next gen.

The above is the old seat from an S85

The below is from my p85d

Doesnt make much of a difference to me! But I thought you guys on the line trying to figure the NG seats (along with the discussion of the child seats) would like to see this to help make an informed decision. I tried to get the picture from the angle I see through the rear view and tried to get the picture at the same distance and angle. not perfect but does the job.

yobigd20 · Jan 22, 2015

that is NOT the old design. your pics from the loaner are the NEW v1.5 design.

THIS is the real OLD design (v1.0), and the headrests are obviously A LOT smaller, and it is my understanding these (v1.0) are no longer made. now you get v1.5 as the "regular" seats, and v2.0 are next gen (hence, all new owners are screwed with lower visibility no matter what you pick)

a better view, clearly showing that the old v1.0 DO NOT obstruct the rear view. IMO the v1.5 and v2.0 are a MAJOR FAIL by Tesla.

EarlyAdopter · Jan 22, 2015

yobigd20 said:
a better view, clearly showing that the old v1.0 DO NOT obstruct the rear view. IMO the v1.5 and v2.0 are a MAJOR FAIL by Tesla.

Except when you get rear ended and have adult passengers in the back seat. I'm guessing the old seats were a MAJOR FAIL when it came to European crash testing.

yobigd20 · Jan 22, 2015

EarlyAdopter said:
Except when you get rear ended and have adult passengers in the back seat. I'm guessing the old seats were a MAJOR FAIL when it came to European crash testing.

But if you could see what's behind you then you can get out of the way before it smashes into you

. Kinda like this guy: 1.18.15 NJ Turnpike I-95 Crash - Black Ice - Trailer flip - YouTube

Ok ok maybe not like that guy, he just sat there like an idiot as the truck is barreling down on him. He's lucky he didn't get squashed.

ecarfan · Jan 22, 2015

Just use the rear view camera in the top center display all the time.

I recall a year ago people posting complaints that the rear seat headrests were dangerous because they were too low.

Now people are complaining they are too tall.

yobigd20 · Jan 22, 2015

ecarfan said:
I recall a year ago people posting complaints that the rear seat headrests were dangerous because they were too low.

Now people are complaining they are too tall.

Gee, if only they were adjustable they could solve both complaints, kinda like they're very very very very very first original Model S's built:

Fezzik · Jan 22, 2015

Sorry. yes. I didnt mean OLD. I was trying to compare the NG vs non NG seats. This is the newer version that is not NG. I edited the post to reflect that properly!

the adjustable headrest is what they def should have went with. Oh well.

actionspa · Jan 23, 2015

Fezzik,
Your pictures are spot on, very helpful in showing what to expect.

Fezzik said:
I had my p85d in for service for a small draft in the drivers window and a rattle in the sunroof (both fixed quickly) and I was given a 85 loaner. I know there was some debate on the size of the middle seat obstruction of the view so I figured take a pic of non next gen (1.5) vs next gen.

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The above is the old seat from an S85

The below is from my p85d
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Doesnt make much of a difference to me! But I thought you guys on the line trying to figure the NG seats (along with the discussion of the child seats) would like to see this to help make an informed decision. I tried to get the picture from the angle I see through the rear view and tried to get the picture at the same distance and angle. not perfect but does the job.

stevezzzz · Jan 23, 2015

Thanks, Fezzik. As one of those who will soon have to decide whether to keep my 1.5 rear seats or accept (demand?) the NG rear seats, this is helpful.

wayner · Jan 23, 2015

They really should be removable like in my old Lexus. That also makes it easier to tether child seats.

andrewket · Jan 23, 2015

wayner said:
They really should be removable like in my old Lexus. That also makes it easier to tether child seats.

Agree.

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