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Over promise, under deliver
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Larry93428
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Lots of discussion over at 400 Mile Pack (Was New Roadster Goodies for 2014) - Page 91 - though obviously not appropriate to merge the threads, since that discussion is about the timing of the Roadster 400 mile pack.
NigelM
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Expect a tweet from Elon any moment now announcing the planned introduction of wireless charging. ;-)
stevejust
T E S L A x (≡)
I don't know why people think it's a problem. Tesla's always over-delivered. They've just never timely delivered. And that's okay. Good things come to those who wait.
I really did want the 400 mile battery pack by the end of this year -- but who cares? I hardly ever drive my Roadster more than 40 miles at a time anywhere anyway.
All that said, I thought about doing a point by point rebuttal-type critique of the article, but I discovered the CHAdeMO adapter is still not for sale on the site. I thought it "came out" a couple weeks ago. Whoops.
Let's be honest, if I set delivery expectations with my boss at work then slipped continually as Tesla does then I would be fired. It's not enough to deliver a great product.
I will say that announcing a product without a release date to generate excitement and publicity is a valid strategy ... if communicated correctly ...
I will say that announcing a product without a release date to generate excitement and publicity is a valid strategy ... if communicated correctly ...
This is why at the D event Elon Musk thought out loud about having a mechanism that could plug your car in automatically.
Or as Nigel mentioned, use wireless charging and you don't have that problem. In fact, with automated parking you should get optimal wireless charging. Just don't expect your wireless charging to be fast.
It seems to me that the Rules of Trusting Tesla are:
(1) Trust that they are trying to deliver features on time, at the projected price
(2) Do not trust estimated timelines
(3) Do not trust estimated prices
ThosEM
Space Weatherman
I thought it was the reverse. The impossible gets done, the difficult takes longer. Reason for this is that because everyone knows the impossible is impossible, there aren't any preconceived ideas that have to be excised before starting.
It's not an elephant in the room, though. We talk about Tesla's failures all the time around here.
Sorry to OP!
OOPS Battery swap now in beta testing
Model S owners have a choice, Fast (battery swap) or Free ( Superchargers)
Battery Swap Pilot Program | Blog | Tesla Motors
OOPS Battery swap now in beta testing
Model S owners have a choice, Fast (battery swap) or Free ( Superchargers)
Battery Swap Pilot Program | Blog | Tesla Motors
lolachampcar
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There is a very simple solution and I am sure some have chosen it. Simply vote with your wallet. As long as the company is supply constrained, they will have freedom to do as they like and communicate as poorly as engineers do (along with way underestimating the time it takes to deliver a completed product).
It is a poor example because Tesla is pretty much doing what they said they would, but PD deliveries have not gone as smooth as customers have wanted but, like the early deliveries with way longer waits and much longer delays, all is forgotten when the car arrives. Yes, it really is that good.
It is a poor example because Tesla is pretty much doing what they said they would, but PD deliveries have not gone as smooth as customers have wanted but, like the early deliveries with way longer waits and much longer delays, all is forgotten when the car arrives. Yes, it really is that good.
NigelM
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^^^This. And the fact that a few people (myself included) were tweeting Elon asking about stuff, maybe that made a difference and maybe not.
I think you're probably right -- and if so, sad that it takes something like that to kick them into gear.
But this isn't about a communication issue with P85D deliveries due to seat issues and port closures. Delivery dates of major products (Model S, Model X, probably Model 3) have continually slipped. What Tesla does is hard, and I'm a huge fan, but they need to get better at this.
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