BMW touting a P85D killer?

From the article: "but it’s so far off the books that it’s not even considered to be an official prototype yet."

And by the way, it's a hybrid, it's not an EV. So it requires gas and oil, it has no frunk, it has a center transmission tunnel, a small rear trunk, it requires all the usual maintenance, and it will be very expensive to build because it is extremely complicated with thousands more parts than the Model S.

Really BMW, this is the best you can do? And it's years away from going on sale, if it ever does?

A Tesla killer with only 9 more HP? Plus it has a gasoline engine? What a joke.

Silly, silly silly.

Back to the drawing board BMW.

Bring it to the drag strip or the track vs a P85D, both of them with fully charged batteries and an empty fuel tank, and let the games begin.

"...but by our extremely unofficial estimates, the sprint to 60 mph feels like it’s executed in the low-four-second range." Ummm- that's what my P85 does. Now.

BMW, better cars through marketing.

Disappointing. BMW still makes amazing cars but this doesn't seem like a genuine effort on their part. Their engineers could do better if management let them.

Expensive Volt that isn't even as good looking as a Volt.

Not a Tesla killer. The D has caused the "Thing" to be still born and BMW doesn't even know it yet!

It can't be a "Tesla Killer" if it has an engine.

dsm363 said:

Disappointing. BMW still makes amazing cars but this doesn't seem like a genuine effort on their part. Their engineers could do better if management let them.

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I've been getting really pissed off with how bad BMW is with software. They just don't get it. They overengineered the lead acid battery charging on several generations of cars to claim some sort of immeasurable efficiency gain, for which you need to pay a guy $400 to reprogram your ECU if you replace the battery. Seriously, that's just goddamn terrible. That was just the last straw, there's many other reasons they just don't get it.

not even one of the greatest ICE makers with experience working with tesla can come close to their junior partner.

what a joke.

Amped-Up said:

"...but by our extremely unofficial estimates, the sprint to 60 mph feels like it’s executed in the low-four-second range." Ummm- that's what my P85 does. Now.

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Actually, isn't the P85D low 3's? Just saying...

At least they are trying.. It means something is happening at a traditional automaker.

Dutchie said:

At least they are trying..

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Depends on one's definition of try.

Dutchie said:

At least they are trying.. It means something is happening at a traditional automaker.

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Creating a hybrid is not "trying" to build an EV. It's a hybrid, of which there are many available to buy from multiple manufacturers right now. This BMW "thing" is not even a prototype of a car BMW has committed to mass produce, it's a one-off vehicle that may never make it into production.

Get serious BMW. Go big, or go home.

Dutchie said:

At least they are trying.. It means something is happening at a traditional automaker.

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i drive...

Just shows how threatened BMW feels by the P85D. BMW, who's marketing is focused on performance, has been beaten by the dual drive Model S. Show this pre-prototype vehicle and using the term 'Tesla killer' is just a desperate attempt to keep customers loyal to BMW and hopefully not jump to the Tesla.

Dutchie said:

At least they are trying..

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