Performance Plus Expense and Confort 16k Miles a Year

The + is significantly firmer than a P but nowhere near that of something like an M5 or C63... more like an E63.

As for tires, alignment helps but I had to remove camber in the rear (search camber for threads) to get to 17.5K miles on my original PS2s (which I replaced with PSS).

The price you mention is in the right range. Tesla offered $68.5 for my 18K mile car while competing wholesale numbers were $79K.

I drove a p85+ wth 21" wheels (I have a P85 with 19's) I honestly couldn't tell much of a difference. If I were going to buy the car unless I had $$ to spend I'd probably put the 19's on it because you'll get more mileage out of the tires. But as far as ride, cornering etc I couldn't tell the difference between it and mine.

I drive my car as a commuter but have been known to push the car to its limits on the road just for enjoyment and when I drove the + I wanted to see if I could tell a difference. Other than it being a little louder inside I couldn't feel anything (note:I drove in sport mode)

Coming from a P85+ owner, i'd say save the extra money and get yourself a P85. There's really no need for the "extra handling characteristics". I'm in no way a professional, but in my experience from track days, I feel this car is best used for commuting and not made for the track. I've recently driven a standard 85 and felt that it was sufficient for what most people would use it for.

Other people might have different opinions, but if i had a chance to do it again, I would have just ordered the P85 with the 21inch. (maybe not even rims since i got aftermarket ones anyways.)

You ordered last night and got a Feb delivery!!! They just pushed my month old order to Feb.......

Congrats, REBroker. You'll love it.
I have a P85+ and the air suspension. I believe it is a much better ride than coils. You will likely have the same set-up on your D.

Big thing is the staggered tire sizes. 245s front, 265s rear. So no tire rotation.

There is another thread promoting feedback to Michelin to make the PSS tires available in 265 so we can replace the PS2s with them.
Pilot Super Sports for the 21" staggered wheels Check it out.

REBroker said:

Thanks Guys, this shopping for the best deal thing in the used market was killing me, and my productivity. So I just bit the bullet and ordered a P85D, slept much better last night it's a February delivery so it'll be a long few months for sure!

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Is this the one you were looking at? http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=97210&endYear=2015&modelCode1=TESMODS&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1=TESLA&numRecords=100&searchRadius=0&maxPrice=85000&showcaseListingId=0&mmt=%5BTESLA%5BTESMODS%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=388118409&Log=0

REBroker said:

Yep, that was indeed the one!

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i was considering it as well, until I saw the Carfax......it had been in a wreck.

I got very lucky with the used one I bought. I could not come to terms with spending $125+ on a car. I will buy a used D later next year.

REBroker said:

Congrats on your purchase! I'm using all sorts of justifications to validate the price paid, lol, it is certainly not easy for most of us I would say.

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Wait until you make your first payment!

That price seemed far too low for a P+, now we know why.

What was the price?? Mine went for $79K (18K mile Red/Black P+).

AmpedRealtor said:

That price seemed far too low for a P+, now we know why.

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Maybe, I almost bought this P85+....it's a beautiful car but it just didn't have a lot of options. They have had it for several months and really want to sell it.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=97210&endYear=2015&modelCode1=TESMODS&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1=TESLA&numRecords=100&searchRadius=0&showcaseListingId=0&mmt=%5BTESLA%5BTESMODS%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=383571786&Log=0

Whatever you buy, make sure that if you are looking for a Plus that the car is actually a Plus.