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A report by Lux Research, a firm of technology analysts, has predicted that the gigafactory will bring about only a modest cut in battery costs and suffer more than 50% overcapacity. “Most other companies do not believe that battery volume will grow as fast as it’s going to,” Mr Straubel counters. “They don’t understand the tight linkage between cost and volume. We’re at this crossing-point where a small reduction in cost is going to result in a ridiculously big increase in volume, because the auto industry is so big.”
I think Tesla is a battery company which also makes cars.
++I have been posting that statement multiple times in the past year.
That is why TSLA is undervalued. It's much more than a car company.
Let me start by saying that I'm NOT trolling here, but I honestly want to know.I think Tesla is a battery company which also makes cars.
Phil Seastrand; said:How is Tesla a battery company when Panasonic makes the cells? Is there that much IP in the packaging? Who own's the IP for the cells that are custom made for Tesla? My understanding is that Panasonic will continue to manufacture the cells in the Gigafactory. I'm just trying to understand so I can talk accurately with my friends when this question comes up.
I agree. Unless Tesla has an R&D project dreaming up new battery chemistries (and I wouldn't put it past them!), Panasonic is still the cell maker. Journalists and analysts and being kinda lazy when they forget this.
Let me start by saying that I'm NOT trolling here, but I honestly want to know.
How is Tesla a battery company when Panasonic makes the cells? Is there that much IP in the packaging? Who own's the IP for the cells that are custom made for Tesla? My understanding is that Panasonic will continue to manufacture the cells in the Gigafactory. I'm just trying to understand so I can talk accurately with my friends when this question comes up.
Let me start by saying that I'm NOT trolling here, but I honestly want to know.
How is Tesla a battery company when Panasonic makes the cells? Is there that much IP in the packaging? Who own's the IP for the cells that are custom made for Tesla? My understanding is that Panasonic will continue to manufacture the cells in the Gigafactory. I'm just trying to understand so I can talk accurately with my friends when this question comes up.
I hate to be the "word usage" police, but the straight definition of "battery" refers to one *or more* cells in every dictionary out there. So "battery company" can refer to a company that makes battery cells, but it can also refer to a company that makes battery packs (which Tesla certainly falls under).
While most of the large companies that work exclusively on batteries makes battery cells (and sometimes also packs), there are also smaller companies out there that only manufacture battery packs and none of the cells themselves. Most people are referring to the former when they use the term, but it's not wrong either to use it for the latter either.