Installed adjustable rear camber links to reduce rear tire wear

artsci · Nov 20, 2014

Today I had SUPRKAR's adjustable rear camber links (see post #502) installed on my car. The installation took about 3 hours but it was well worth it as the setting are perfect for minimizing rear tire wear: -1.00 camber and 0.18 toe. Without the adjustable links the -1.00 camber setting is near impossible. The work was done by Jeff Wise of Wise Automotive in Timonium, MD. The guy's a perfectionist -- he would not stop until he got the specs spot on. He removed the aerodynamic panels under the rear axle to provide better access to the links as he was making the settings.

I've driven about 15 miles since the installation over familiar routes and the change in handling is not substantial. The adjustable links are a work of art.

Here's a shot of it installed.

And the setup equipment.

Thanks to lolachampcar for all of the work he's done to make this possible. And to SUPRKAR for having the adjustable links made.

schneiderjohn · Nov 20, 2014

Very cool! If you don't mind, could you give us a ballpark figure on what something like this might run?

Denarius · Nov 20, 2014

I'm very interested in this, but waiting to see if there are any changes in the P85D setup.

artsci · Nov 21, 2014

schneiderjohn said:
Very cool! If you don't mind, could you give us a ballpark figure on what something like this might run?

With the links and installation costs, about $1,100. Just in saved rear tire costs alone it should pay for itself in no more than two years.

schneiderjohn · Nov 21, 2014

artsci said:
With the links and installation costs, about $1,100. Just in saved rear tire costs alone it should pay for itself in no more than two years.

Wow! That's not too bad! I do wonder what the benefit will be on D-models, considering the expected decrease in rear tire wear. Perhaps still beneficial, but will likely take longer to pay for itself.

jerry33 · Nov 22, 2014

schneiderjohn said:
Wow! That's not too bad! I do wonder what the benefit will be on D-models, considering the expected decrease in rear tire wear. Perhaps still beneficial, but will likely take longer to pay for itself.

Unless they have changed the possible alignment settings, it should provide the same benefits. (resistance to the shoulder wear during turns, which isn't the same as the reduced wear that the D provides).

hbombdaddy · Nov 22, 2014

Rick:

Anything different: for install of links, and settings, for p85+ vs p85 staggered 21 vs regular 21's

your buddy howard in cincinnati

ps LOVE YOUR FRONT CAMERA!!!

artsci · Nov 22, 2014

No sure about the P85+, which may have different settings.

zwede · Nov 24, 2014

artsci said:
No sure about the P85+, which may have different settings.

P85+ has the same rear suspension and alignment specs as the P85 (w/ air).

artsci · Nov 30, 2014

hbombdaddy said:
Rick:

Anything different: for install of links, and settings, for p85+ vs p85 staggered 21 vs regular 21's

your buddy howard in cincinnati

ps LOVE YOUR FRONT CAMERA!!!

Thanks Howard. Ironically, when I had the MobileEye System installed the installer managed to disable my front camera. The usual solutions did not work so I probably have to replace all of the cables to get it to work.

Jason Bloomberg · Sep 8, 2017

Now that you have had them for a while how do you like them?

Thank you.

artsci said:
Today I had SUPRKAR's adjustable rear camber links (see post #502) installed on my car. The installation took about 3 hours but it was well worth it as the setting are perfect for minimizing rear tire wear: -1.00 camber and 0.18 toe. Without the adjustable links the -1.00 camber setting is near impossible. The work was done by Jeff Wise of

artsci said:

Thanks Howard. Ironically, when I had the MobileEye System installed the installer managed to disable my front camera. The usual solutions did not work so I probably have to replace all of the cables to get it to work.

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The guy's a perfectionist -- he would not stop until he got the specs spot on. He removed the aerodynamic panels under the rear axle to provide better access to the links as he was making the settings.

I've driven about 15 miles since the installation over familiar routes and the change in handling is not substantial. The adjustable links are a work of art.

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Here's a shot of it installed.

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And the setup equipment.

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Thanks to lolachampcar for all of the work he's done to make this possible. And to SUPRKAR for having the adjustable links made.

artsci · Sep 9, 2017

Jason Bloomberg said:
Now that you have had them for a while how do you like them?

Thank you.

This is one of the best cost-saving mods I've made, as rear tire replacement has been substantially reduced. So it was worth every penny.

BigCity · Sep 20, 2017

Are the links even available any more? Would love them on my P100D, otherwise I guess I'll start driving in HIGH or VERY HIGH on my unplugged brackets for highway driving to avoid ruining my new set of tires in 5k miles like my last set?

artsci · Sep 21, 2017

BigCity said:
Are the links even available any more? Would love them on my P100D, otherwise I guess I'll start driving in HIGH or VERY HIGH on my unplugged brackets for highway driving to avoid ruining my new set of tires in 5k miles like my last set?

I think they are, but contact BBC Speed And Machine to determine.

BigCity · Sep 22, 2017

artsci said:
I think they are, but contact BBC Speed And Machine to determine.

Thanks! I'll reach out to them and see what they say. Are they difficult to install, guessing any good alignment shop would be able to handle it? Only caveats being dealing with Tesla if anything came up.

rknp85plus · Sep 23, 2017

BigCity said:
Are the links even available any more? Would love them on my P100D, otherwise I guess I'll start driving in HIGH or VERY HIGH on my unplugged brackets for highway driving to avoid ruining my new set of tires in 5k miles like my last set?

So does the UP brackets and driving at a higher corrected some of the negative camber? Can you tell any difference in the tire wear?

BigCity · Sep 23, 2017

Brackets would make it worse since they lower the air ride set points. That's why I'm interested in finding a way to correct the rear camber, which sounds like a one off custom made piece. I went through a set of hankooks in the rear in 5-7k miles.

artsci · Sep 23, 2017

BigCity said:
Thanks! I'll reach out to them and see what they say. Are they difficult to install, guessing any good alignment shop would be able to handle it? Only caveats being dealing with Tesla if anything came up.

I had installation done by a local shop that I trust. The rear diffuser has to be taken off to provide better access, so I lift was needed, and an alignment has to be done after installation.

Naonak · Sep 24, 2017

BBC Speed and Machine still sell them. $1235 shipped.

They are super easy to install. Just remove the rear wheels and two large bolts (19mm if I recall) and one 7mm bolt will remove them, then replace.

You'll need to immediately get an alignment though, as your camber is going to be seriously off after installing these. I tried to eyeball it and got dead on with one side, but was really off on the other side.

Takes about 20 minutes a side if you know what you're doing. Otherwise, budget about 1.5 hours.

BigCity · Sep 24, 2017

Naonak said:
BBC Speed and Machine still sell them. $1235 shipped.

They are super easy to install. Just remove the rear wheels and two large bolts (19mm if I recall) and one 7mm bolt will remove them, then replace.

You'll need to immediately get an alignment though, as your camber is going to be seriously off after installing these. I tried to eyeball it and got dead on with one side, but was really off on the other side.

Takes about 20 minutes a side if you know what you're doing. Otherwise, budget about 1.5 hours.

Awesome thanks for the reply will make a call tomorrow.

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