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    New York Times bends the facts

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/26/bu...1&ref=business

    The print version has this:
    "Behind electric cars and wind turbines, ruined land."

    The implication of this screed is that ICE cars don't use these materials when in fact they do and even more. Especially if you count one-time use fuels.

    The world loves to be deceived.


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    http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/batte...html#post35293

    Seems like the same story about rare earth metals. They apparently missed the memo about how it is primarily hybrids that use rare earth metals in large numbers (magnets in motors and nimh batteries). EVs mostly use induction motors and lithium batteries, which don't even use any rare earth metals.
    Because there are tons of crazy people in this world...

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    Re: New York Times bends the facts

    I see the cattle farms really suffering with those windmills... All the way to the bank.

    WARNING: Danger of Electric Shock! Vehicle may accelerate quicker than anticipated.

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    This article makes reference to the NYT one vfx mentioned at the top of the thread: Blood Tesla: Eco-Friendly Products Require Rare Metals From Chinese Mines That Destroy World


    I'm concerned that with Murdoch's new policy of charging for news () means they can make outrageous statements and then hide behind the login page.



    EDIT: So I read the article (you can get access directly through a phone browser). Most of it seems reasonable - pointing out that the trade is heavily corrupt, the extraction methods used are damaging and that new mines will come online in Australia, South Africa and Canada (hopefully better regulated), but this will take time. They also point the finger at Toyota as a user of the material. I'd hope that the article was intended to highlight the problem to get something done about it - rather than frighten people into not supporting the products. At least, I'd hope intelligent readers would take that message away from it.

    It's Business Insider's link to Tesla that really leaves a nasty taste. There's absolutely no justification for it and I hope they follow it up.
    Last edited by dpeilow; 01-02-2010 at 05:58 AM.

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    I see that Doug has pointed out, in the comments following the article, that Tesla's AC Induction motor doesn't use rare earth elements like Permanent Magnet motors do. I think he was somewhat annoyed (as was I), but posted in a classy way.

    Way to go Doug!

    GSP

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    Another variant on this story

    China clean tech's rare-earth advantage

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