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Tuan from Glosswork has been doing Modesta the longest and is a great detailer.
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Wow, Modesta is quickly gaining traction despite the big price tag.
Moe, last time I heard you were using a kind of hybrid coating - maybe wax and silica? I cannot recall the name. Did you bail on that for Modesta? I am really curious to know how Modesta holds up against normal wear and tear as opposed to OG (which I still feel makes chipping more likely because not slick enough). Would be interested to hear real life experiences at some point for comparisons.
Update: Show Car Detailing in Anaheim seems to be doing some Modesta coatings now too.
Yes, but my disappointment with OG was not that it doesn't last forever. I wanted a coating that would generally look "good", make wash maintenance easier to cut down on wash marring, and be the sacrificial barrier to preserve as much OEM paint as possible. I always figured at some point the OG would need some follow up polishing and maybe re-application. I simply did not like the physical characteristics and behavior of the coating on the paint that I observed. To me it's not just about how a coating looks the day it is applied.
On an interesting side note, I saw something yesterday about how Optimum has modified their product line and warranty statement. I'm not saying they don't have some good products (I use ONRWW all the time and I've used their Protectant Plus on trim), or that the particular product doesn't work for everybody, or that it was or wasn't true that their coating would remain on the paint for a "lifetime" (meaning longer than most people keep their cars). However, I do think they are trying to respond to the criticism from pro detailers who are frustrated with consumers thinking that no future care is required. Let's face it, detailers probably can't make a living putting a coating on a car once and then never have any repeat business for maintenance.
Since every coating or wrap is supposed to be a sacrificial barrier, not only is it supposed to help protect against certain contamination, it is also taking the brunt of UV damage or oxidation. Thus, to some extent it is being broken down gradually over time (instead of the paint), consistent with Moe's observation about ongoing care and maintenance. I don't think people should believe that Paint Protection Film should stay on a car "forever" either, despite any "lifetime" warranty claims about that.
Again, people in O.C. (and some other areas) are lucky because they have many more options.
Moe (and anyone else that has good info),
What do you think about applying C.Quartz Finest, Modesta, etc. over Xpel Ultimate? I've heard different folks say different things. What I've kind of settled on based on what feels like honest, experience based opinions is that nothing extra is strictly necessary (not that *any* of this is *strictly* necessary), but that a good sealant that is compatible (specific solvent wise) with Xpel Ultimate *will* add some extra gloss and protection to the car. That said, I was told that while C.Quartz would absolutely work and enhance the wrap, that it would not bond as well as it would directly, and that I could expect maybe a year before I'd want to consider reapplying. Alternately, it was suggested that a less expensive and protective sealer, such as CarPro Reload would last 6 months or so, look just as good (perhaps could tell the difference side by side… maybe), and cost less over time due to it's own and application costs. The detailer would be happy to do either or nothing extra and absolutely pushes C.Quartz on exposed paint, but for his own car decided to use Reload on the Xpel covered areas.
Thoughts? This sound basically right, or do you dissent? I'm interested in not just day 1 looks, but looks and ongoing costs per year several years down the road.
Thanks in advance - really appreciate the value of your experience.
Looking for someone to coat my MS. Any suggestions for a local detailer in OC?
Thanks in advance
I Highly Recommend Richard Lin of show car detailing in Anaheim. He does really great work and has been using modesta for a while now.
I am the only Authorized 22ple detailer in the OCLooking for someone to coat my MS. Any suggestions for a local detailer in OC?
Thanks in advance