Nissan Leaf

[TEG]

EVs and Energy: Nissan's Leaf falls gently to Earth in LA

[EVNow]

They pretend that the battery lease payments plus the cost of electricity will roughly equal the equivalent gasoline expense.

Well they can't just pretend. The lease price on battery has to be low enough (say $150 a month) for this to be correct.

The truth is battery prices will go down - and the oil prices (if you can get enough of it) will go up.

[doug]

Some videos:

Videos Posted by Nissan LEAF | Facebook

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LA Times

Nissan is turning over a new zero-emission Leaf -- latimes.com

30 to 40 years!?


I drove the mule. If there is a serious way to adjust regen, I think they have a real winner.

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Nissan CEO Says Their Electric Car Strategy is Unique in Industry | Reuters

I like reading this:

Along with the US unveiling of the LEAF, Ghosn made the announcement that the next electric vehicle they will bring to the US is an electric version of a Nissan light duty commercial vehicle for city deliveries. And after that will be an Infiniti compact luxury electric car, which, according to Ghosn, will be a "stylish, high-performance four seater."

[dpeilow]

Nissan throws down the next Gauntlet of the EV Wave

He revealed that the official line on the price is that it will be in the $25k -$33K range and that would also depend on if the battery was for sale or leased. Sounded like $25K purchase + a $100-$150/month lease was a likely possibility. That was all before rebates and the rep was not certain on what the like government rebates would be like since it is not clear if the current rebate programs will continue. He also said that the target was to have these vehicles available to the public around this time next year so likely the 2011 model year is my guess.

[Serge]

Nissan throws down the next Gauntlet of the EV Wave

I think $25-33K purchase price range is too high for the LEAF. In essence, it is an electrified Versa, which goes for 13K-16.5K. Is the body + power electronics + electric motor really that expensive? Prius, which LEAF buyers will likely cross-shop, starts at $22.4K-27.7K. LEAF will likely have the "more fun to drive" angle going for it, but 100 miles on city cycle is a bit low. The $7.5K federal tax credit may sweeten the deal a little, but will it apply for battery lease deal? Too many questions here ...

[bobw]

Well they can't just pretend. The lease price on battery has to be low enough (say $150 a month) for this to be correct.

The truth is battery prices will go down - and the oil prices (if you can get enough of it) will go up.

I didn't say it was correct.

Perhaps I read too much Steven Brust.

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I think $25-33K purchase price range is too high for the LEAF. In essence, it is an electrified Versa, which goes for 13K-16.5K. Is the body + power electronics + electric motor really that expensive? Prius, which LEAF buyers will likely cross-shop, starts at $22.4K-27.7K. LEAF will likely have the "more fun to drive" angle going for it, but 100 miles on city cycle is a bit low. The $7.5K federal tax credit may sweeten the deal a little, but will it apply for battery lease deal? Too many questions here ...

I'm guessing body + power electronics + electric motor can easily add ~$10k to the price depending on volume. But that's looking at conversion prices (AC motor is is $5k+, a decent controller is $2k+, charger is $2k+). I'm sure Nissan can do better.

It is a bit steep if you are already leasing the battery. If not, I think even mid $30k is pretty good pricing.

[TEG]

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