Swap your 85kW "A" Battery for my 60kW Non-Charge Limited battery + Cash

islandbayy · Apr 6, 2014

I'm looking for someone with a 85kW "A" battery (The ones restricted to 90kW charge rate) that is interested in swapping it for my 60kW Non-Charge rate restricted pack + some additional monies depending on the mileage of your battery.
Once again, this is swap the PACKS ONLY, not exchange cars.

yobigd20 · Apr 7, 2014

hah, don't want to get stuck on the road again? You know you can upgrade directly from Tesla and get a 'B' (or whatever the latest) pack, right? The cost for the battery pack minus the trade in for yours would probably run you about $20k.

I can't see someone actually wanting to "downgrade" their car to a used 60kW. Besides, a 60kW is also "supercharger limited" and cannot utilize the full 135kW charging anyway so I don't see the point in this.

islandbayy · Apr 10, 2014

yobigd20 said:
hah, don't want to get stuck on the road again? You know you can upgrade directly from Tesla and get a 'B' (or whatever the latest) pack, right? The cost for the battery pack minus the trade in for yours would probably run you about $20k.

I can't see someone actually wanting to "downgrade" their car to a used 60kW. Besides, a 60kW is also "supercharger limited" and cannot utilize the full 135kW charging anyway so I don't see the point in this.

May be a downgrade for them in capacity, but upgrade in charging speed. The 60's charge currently at 105kW.

Just figured, it's worth a shot. Not asking guarantees that I will not get

trigga71 · May 22, 2014

Can you do a direct swap from 60 to 85 without changing the inverter/motor?

yobigd20 · May 22, 2014

trigga71 said:
Can you do a direct swap from 60 to 85 without changing the inverter/motor?

yep. when the battery swapping stations come out, they don't swap your inverter/motor too. just the battery pack.

skeff24 · Feb 3, 2015

islandbayy said:
I'm looking for someone with a 85kW "A" battery (The ones restricted to 90kW charge rate) that is interested in swapping it for my 60kW Non-Charge rate restricted pack + some additional monies depending on the mileage of your battery.
Once again, this is swap the PACKS ONLY, not exchange cars.

Are you still looking for a swap?

MikeInFL · Feb 5, 2015

FYI 60 kWh cars don't charge as fast as 85's... Check out Supercharging Tesla Model S 60 kWh vs 85 kWh - YouTube

islandbayy · Feb 28, 2015

MikeInFL said:
FYI 60 kWh cars don't charge as fast as 85's... Check out Supercharging Tesla Model S 60 kWh vs 85 kWh - YouTube

Bjorn got different results then me. My 60 charges at 105kW, and considerably faster then what his video shows. don't know if it was the car or supercharger he was using, but mines never charged that slow.

dirkhh · Feb 28, 2015

islandbayy said:
Bjorn got different results then me. My 60 charges at 105kW, and considerably faster then what his video shows. don't know if it was the car or supercharger he was using, but mines never charged that slow.

The lower pack voltage results in lower max charge. About 105kW for a 60, about 120kW for a non-A 85. So A battery 85 < S60 < non-A 85

markb1 · Feb 28, 2015

I don't think Tesla will do this. They only did a 60 to 85 upgrade once, that I've heard of, and now reports are that they refuse to do this.

islandbayy · Mar 1, 2015

dirkhh said:
The lower pack voltage results in lower max charge. About 105kW for a 60, about 120kW for a non-A 85. So A battery 85 < S60 < non-A 85

Correct, I was pointing out that the results that Bjorn had were considerably slower then my results supercharging the living crap out of my 60. the one he tested never even exceeded 90kW charge rate from empty, I get 105kW rate from dead to about 20%, and usually hold 90kW until about 35-40% considerably faster rate then his test shows. we never did figure out why that was.

SmartElectric · Mar 1, 2015

Bjorn's 60 charging video is one of the reasons I wasn't considering a 60... Not sure what to think at this point. Don't need an 85 for 98% of the trips we take...

wk057 · Mar 1, 2015

@islandbayy - There are undamaged 85kWh packs being sold all of the time from salvage Model S. Why not buy one?

dhanson865 · Mar 1, 2015

wk057 said:
@islandbayy - There are undamaged 85kWh packs being sold all of the time from salvage Model S. Why not buy one?

and then sell the 60kWh pack afterwards.

maybe contact the owner of the salvage 85kWh pack and see if they'll take yours + cash in trade for theirs and do the swap.

The plus to buying separately is you get to hold on to the old pack in case you change your mind and want to swap back. The minus is having to invest the pack cost until you sell yours.

apacheguy · Mar 1, 2015

wk057 said:
@islandbayy - There are undamaged 85kWh packs being sold all of the time from salvage Model S. Why not buy one?

Presumably because you would need Tesla to install it and they're not likely to do that.

markb1 · Mar 1, 2015

islandbayy said:
Correct, I was pointing out that the results that Bjorn had were considerably slower then my results supercharging the living crap out of my 60. the one he tested never even exceeded 90kW charge rate from empty, I get 105kW rate from dead to about 20%, and usually hold 90kW until about 35-40% considerably faster rate then his test shows. we never did figure out why that was.

I concur with the 105 kW figure. And my car is from the very first batch of 60s.

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