Well I can see a time when I will have to get mad at a Fisker parked running in the Tesla charge spot. Or maybe an Aptera hogging up both charge spots because the owner couldnt get it between the lines.
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Well I can see a time when I will have to get mad at a Fisker parked running in the Tesla charge spot. Or maybe an Aptera hogging up both charge spots because the owner couldnt get it between the lines.
Last edited by Picasso; 05-21-2009 at 02:14 AM.
Write a note.Originally Posted by Picasso
Apparently Saturn funded these. Pretty low tech but Tesla should include and send one of these to everyone with a car.
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Last edited by vfx; 05-21-2009 at 04:48 PM. Reason: to everyone
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That's interesting. Should pure EV's get priority in charging spots over PHEVs, (REEVs, EREV, whatever)?
I can tell you from experience that such notes can cause issues.
I once put such a note on an ICE car parked in a Costco EV reserved charge spot. I then parked in non reserved space next to it and was able to just reach the cable to charge. When I returned from shopping, the tire department manager confronted me and presented the note and asked if it was mine. I said, yeah, that is an EV reserved spot so I left the note... He said that the spots are usually empty and the tire department had given that customer permission to use the spot since there were no other free spaces at the time. That customer got mad at them for getting permission and then getting a reprimand note after using it.
Just because the spots say EV reserved doesn't mean that everyone feels EV owners are entitled to exclusive use of them. Places like Costco feel like they are doing a favor to EV customers, but they may decide on their own to give out the spaces to someone else. Who owns the space? Who has the right to park there? In effect the signs are really advisory. I don't think there is a law being broken when an ICE is parked there. If the true owner of the space feels that you are policing their property they may not take too kindly and decide not to maintain the hassle of the space. In a way these old EV spaces have turned into a way to give an "excuse" to reserve some spaces for preferred customers or always hold a couple of emergency spots in reserve.
I noticed some spots at Stanford have signs saying they are reserved for EVs only and another sign saying available for ZipCar rental returns too.
I don't use those notes anymore - you can end up pissing off the wrong people.
What about the logic that the cable only reaches to that spot?
Soon there will be more EV owners (who also buy tires.) that will be asking to use the spots that corporate put in.
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By the way, the note VFX links talks of fines and such for breaking EV parking "laws", but I don't think such laws (if they are even still on the books right now) are in force in a private parking lot like at Fry's, Costco, and other "big box" shopping plazas.
Perhaps the notes make more sense on spots in city owned places, but then you might get confronted by a confused meter maid asking why you are trying to do their job for them.
Some spots have been marked Hybrid cars only. Does that mean a Pure EV cannot park there?
There has been a backlash against malls installing pregnant parking spaces.
It's sex discrimination.
There are laws on the books that combine them with Handicapped spaces but since they are legislated (but are they voted on by citizens?) they are presumably "more legal" but a judge could throw those laws out in a second.
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That has come up too. Someone (EVnut?) has replaced many of the signs with newer ones that specifically say that hybrids are excluded. I think some hybrid owners had started to figure that they could get away with using the spots because they have an electric motor in their vehicle. So what happens when a Karma or Volt uses the spot? It should probably say something like "plug in vehicle capable of charging here" sort of thing. I mean is it OK for a Tesla to block an Avcon spot that I could otherwise use? Once one of the public spots I planned to use was blocked by GEM NEV that couldn't even use the Avcon charger.
How seriously do people take all these variations of reserved parking signs?
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