How much of all those benefits were paid for by the Government?
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How much of all those benefits were paid for by the Government?
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@vfx: which post were you referencing?
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Let me split the problem in three groups:
1) Those who buy (much) more electricity than they feed in with solar
2) Those who feed in (much) more than the buy.
3) Those who are about even
Group 1 should not be a problem since they pay very much like other consumers.
Group 2 should not be a problem since the utility, after subsidies, apparently pay a lower feed-in tariff than the the amount for which they can sell it. And solar is during day time, so selling it should not be a problem.
Group 3 , which balances out to about zero, could pay some minimum to be "fair", but I doubt there are enough in this group to make this a real problem. It is only a burden on the infrastructure if a lot were to produce during the day and consume during the night, rather than match their own consumption. But even then, consumption off-peak helps balance the load on the power plants, which is usually much stronger during the day, so that is partially a positive effect.
So considering what was reported above, I'd have some doubts that this is really about fairness. Is it always precisely fair up to this point? One could easily think that the real concern of utilities might be that they want to avoid encouraging solar on roofs, since that a) implies change they need to adapt to, and b) increases the amount of self-sustaining energy use, as if they had fewer customers.
However, EVs go with solar power, and EVs mean additional demand. Or are utilities going to reduce the demand charges for EV fast-chargers? Then I'd be listening.
Buying an EV is one thing, being able to drive it beyond city limits another...
Ok, I am looking for a sticky ... can't find.
Completely ignorant as to the how, why and where of solar.
Illinois.
Trying to determine how to recharge ANY EV with solar.
Obviously I would normally be charging overnight ... so it sounds like I am SOL?
But during the day ... how many "panels" would I need to keep the batteries charged up for either an S or a Leaf?
Can one store the energy in batteries? And can one then use a 240v inverter to power my Level 2 chargers?
And if I were to go all the way, and use AirCon during the day, would a size-proportioned roof full or cells be enough to stay off the grid?
I am sure we have installers lurking here, but here is what I have:I put 60 125watt panels on my roof, which power my house, wells, and car. How many panels depends on how much you drive, and how much your house uses, and also how big the panels are.Originally Posted by sp4rk
At the time CA paid half the price. I got 2 inverters, and they feed 220v into the grid during the day, and the grid pays me for day rate power. At night, I buy back cheap night rate power to charge. The goal is to have enough panels to equal your usage so your yearly bill (at "true-up") is zero. Summer you gain on billing, winter you lose some, so it is measured only once a year.
But any reduction in electric bills is welcome: Some have only a few panels. I try to use less power at day rates (Noon to 6PM) when rates are near triple night rates.
Where I live, there are power outages several times a year, from minutes to days. I bought a bunch of batteries (sealed absorbed glass mat, no maintenance, roughly 18 year life) and added charge controllers to my system. I *could* charge at night from my batteries, but I make more money selling day rate power to the grid and using night rate power to charge. The batteries are only for those days if and when the power is out: We never know without looking since it switches over in a few thousandths of a second. Some feel it is not worth while to add batteries, and I agree: It is purely peace of mind to know the well and other pumps will run for the 97 year old gramma who lives with us, no matter what the grid is doing.
This thread is about Solar news. There are others that help build solar systems for electric cars.
Robert, I was referring to the power companies and the grid. Are they pulling a "Charge Point" type move y getting federal subsidies to build and then charge for smart (and dumb) grid work?
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Ahh... quite possibly. I'd need to go check about who got awarded what out of the big pot of DOE funding.
This appears to be a game changer that could revolutionize solar power production and make solar power affordable for nearly everyone. The oil companies are going to hate it. Now, if only we can figure out how to cheaply store the energy.
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Seems like a technology that could be easily implemented immediately for any type of silicon solar cell.
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