Charging Station standards

[DDB]

If they were smart they would have (or will) take a lesson from DVDs.

"...No single company "owns" DVD. The official specification was developed by a consortium of ten companies: Hitachi, JVC, Matsushita, Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Sony, Thomson, Time Warner, and Toshiba. Representatives from many other companies also contributed in various working groups. In May 1997, the DVD Consortium was replaced by the DVD Forum, which is open to all companies, and as of 2005 had over 250 members...."
and
"The official DVD specification books are available after signing a nondisclosure agreement and paying a $5,000 fee. One book is included in the initial fee; additional books are $500 each..."
and
"...ECMA has developed international standards for DVD-ROM..."
DVD FAQ

Here's why:
"In fact, before its third birthday in March 2000, DVD had become the most successful consumer electronics entertainment product ever."

DVD FAQ

IMO we're not there yet... There's going to be a quick-charge option on some of these EVs and because NOTHING but the Tesla has actually hit the market, we're stuck with 110 and 220 as the default VHS option. Moreover, cars are a little more expensive than movies, which can defray some of the costs. although I'd like a "standard," who the hell knows which one of these companies will develop the "best" one. I'd let the market sort it out.

[TEG]

It used to be you could find semi-public water faucets all over the place. These days water costs enough that most places lock them down for their own use. In filling stations it is hard to even find "free air" or radiator water anymore. You have to feed the machine quarters. The day of the ubiquitous $.10 semi-public payphone is gone too... If you find a telephone "in the wild" it tends to offer "highway robbery" prices for those unlucky enough to have to use one.

Perhaps the days of the semi-public power plug are numbered as well. Electricity prices have gone up enough that it may be a stretch to think that KOAs, shopping centers, airports and such would be willing to give away the power to any EV that decides to park there. Even more true as pack capacity goes up. A Tesla using 60kWh of someone else's power could cost them $20 a visit... Those EV charger spots probably aren't getting E9 EV recharging TOU rates. People would likely be using them during the day not at night.

So, perhaps a new standard will come into play that expects a credit card or some other form of payment before it provides you with metered power.
Some companies (like Coulomb Technologies) are getting into this as a market.

[vfx]

So, perhaps a new standard will come into play that expects a credit card or some other form of payment before it provides you with metered power.
Some companies (like Coulomb Technologies) are getting into this as a market.

Others here:

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/techn...standards.html

I agree there is "no free lunch" anymore. Like high gas prices has been good for Evs so will high electricity prices will be good for solar and wind...

[dpeilow]

The Smart EV and I think NICEs use CEE Form, which is a well known standard.

[TEG]

ACP eBox:



Are ACP and Tesla the same?

[TEG]

Note - the different circular conductive charge connectors have some sort of "guide pin(s)" to line up the plug with the socket. If you are visually comparing them it can be useful to see which sort of guide the different ones are using to note if any two even have a chance of mating up.

[TEG]

Hmm... This one looks slightly different

[graham]

I can see the grooves in the top picture for the "quarter turn" that you are supposed to give the charger after you connect, but not the bottom. Was the red car an earlier model?

[TEG]

I think the red ones were an earlier version.

[doug]

That insulating plastic guide also looks a bit more robust. I believe the red car is likely to be EP2. It's connector is identical to the ACP one.

That connector cover on the eBox doesn't look at all kludgey.





.