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    The Good, the Bad and the Ugly on Climate Change and Renewables

    Today's news brought a mixed bag

    Some good:

    India Doubles Tax On Coal To Fund Clean Energy, Environmental Projects

    22,000 MW solar power capacity by 2022, a dedicated national-level program for promoting wind energy generation, implementation of the world’s largest solar power projects (with capacity of up to 4,000 MW), covering canals with solar panels, implementing dedicated transmission corridors for distributing electricity from renewable energy projects, and cleaning one of the largest rivers in India. This is just a small list of initiatives that India plans to implement in the renewable energy and the environment protection sector.
    See: http://cleantechnica.com/2014/07/20/...37a1-331989925

    Minister Fast Announces Support for Clean Technology in British Columbia

    Led by BC Hydro and supported by the province of British Columbia and the private sector, the British Columbia Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Project supports a shift toward the use of clean energy and electric vehicles in B.C.’s transportation sector by expanding the necessary infrastructure. The project will support the installation of approximately 300 charging stations for public use in urban areas across the province and 30 fast-charging stations along major transportation corridors. The project also includes the implementation of a data network, which will centrally collect charging data.
    See: http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=867749

    Renewables Account For More Than Half of 2014′s New U.S. Energy Capacity

    According to the latest Energy Infrastructure Update from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, solar and wind energy constituted more than half of the new generating capacity in the country for the first half of 2014. Solar and wind energy combined for 1.83 gigawatts (GW) of the total 3.53 GW installed from January to June.
    See: http://ecowatch.com/2014/07/21/renew...a3a94-85924237

    World Bank to invest $775 million in clean energy projects across India

    The World Bank plans to invest $775 million in clean-energy projects across India, even as it expects that the new government's plan to give fiscal and policy support to the sector will galvanise further investment in renewable energy. "The support shown by the new government towards clean energy is quite encouraging and is expected to give the much-needed push to the sector and unlock pending investments," said Ashish Khanna, lead energy specialist at the multilateral funding institution.
    See: http://articles.economictimes.indiat...welspun-energy

    Some bad:

    Shell, Exxon and carbon: The elephant in the atmosphere
    Managers at the biggest oil firms clash with investors over climate change

    Oil companies are betting against effective government action to prevent dangerous climate change:

    Shell says: “We do not see governments taking the steps now that are consistent with the 2°C scenario,” that is, constraining carbon emissions so as to limit the rise in global surface temperatures to 2°C above pre-industrial levels. Such steps would mean cutting emissions of climate-altering gases by 80% by 2050; and the prospect of that, says Exxon, lies outside “the reasonably-likely-to-occur range of planning assumptions”.
    See: http://www.economist.com/news/busine...hange-elephant

    U.S. Becomes Biggest Oil Producer After Overtaking Saudi Arabia

    The expansion of domestic oil production in the U.S. has been significant under President Obama, supported by his “all of the above”—or rather the American Petroleum Institute’s “all of the above”—energy strategy which has overseen a four-fold increase in drilling rigs under his administration.

    News of the surge in U.S. oil production was reported almost concurrently with the release of another news item: global climate scientists have again reported historically high levels of atmospheric carbon. As reported by Climate Central, June 2014 was the third month in a row in which carbon dioxide levels in our atmosphere topped an average of 400 parts per million—a level not seen on Earth in at least 800,000 years.

    Dr. Pieter Tans, a senior climate scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said, “As long as human society continues to emit CO2 from burning fossil fuels, CO2 in the atmosphere and oceans will continue to increase … It is urgent that we find a way to transition to non-carbon fuels as our source of primary energy.”
    See: http://ecowatch.com/2014/07/20/u-s-b...a3a94-85924237

    And the ugly:

    'Historic act of irresponsibility, recklessness'

    By repealing laws that price and limit carbon pollution, Australia today became the world’s first country to dismantle a functioning and effective carbon market, taking a monumentally reckless backward leap even as other major countries are stepping up climate action, said The Climate Institute.

    “Today’s repeal of laws that price and limit carbon pollution is an historic act of irresponsibility and recklessness,” said John Connor, CEO of The Climate Institute.

    “With the Senate’s vote today, Australia not only lurches to the back of the pack of countries taking action on climate, but sees the responsibility of emission reductions shift from major polluters to the taxpayer.”
    See: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...51627bf4ddab3f

    Analyst: Carbon tax repeal is “perfect storm of stupidity”

    But climate policy and economic experts on climate policy have variously described the move as a "backwards step" and a "perfect storm of stupidity". Melbourne Energy Institute senior energy analyst Dr Roger Darville said the carbon tax had already reduced emissions by 10 mega tonnes of carbon dioxide between 2012 and 2014.
    "This change has been driven by the price on carbon, as well as declining demand and increasing wind power," he said.
    "The cost of this shift is carried primarily by the largest emitters who have seen their revenue slashed, which is exactly what the price on carbon was supposed to do."
    Victoria Institute of Strategic Economic Studies' Professor Roger Jones similarly described the repeal as a "perfect storm of stupidity", combining "poor reasoning and bad policy making".
    He said the carbon tax repeal showed a complete disregard of climate change and its impacts, a "mistrust of market forces", and largely, "a total failure of governance by government".
    See: http://www.qt.com.au/news/business-g...epeal/2321771/

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    First, thanks for the links.

    Quote Originally Posted by RichardC View Post
    The Good, the Bad and the Ugly on Climate Change and Renewables


    Some bad:

    Shell, Exxon and carbon: The elephant in the atmosphere
    Managers at the biggest oil firms clash with investors over climate change

    Oil companies are betting against effective government action to prevent dangerous climate change:

    See: http://www.economist.com/news/busine...hange-elephant
    Well no wonder they think this way, they control the politicians with their money. Ridiculous.

    U.S. Becomes Biggest Oil Producer After Overtaking Saudi Arabia

    The expansion of domestic oil production in the U.S. has been significant under President Obama, supported by his “all of the above”—or rather the American Petroleum Institute’s “all of the above”—energy strategy which has overseen a four-fold increase in drilling rigs under his administration.

    News of the surge in U.S. oil production was reported almost concurrently with the release of another news item: global climate scientists have again reported historically high levels of atmospheric carbon. As reported by Climate Central, June 2014 was the third month in a row in which carbon dioxide levels in our atmosphere topped an average of 400 parts per million—a level not seen on Earth in at least 800,000 years.

    Dr. Pieter Tans, a senior climate scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said, “As long as human society continues to emit CO2 from burning fossil fuels, CO2 in the atmosphere and oceans will continue to increase … It is urgent that we find a way to transition to non-carbon fuels as our source of primary energy.”

    and this makes me sick. I voted for Obama twice thinking he would start to move our country in a better direction. All that 'hope' he promised the young generations. We took our knowledge of social media and made his presidency happen, look what that got us......bah!
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    Not to get political but his administration has made significant inroads into the move to alternative fuels and transportation, and it's probably safe to say the increased oil production has helped the economy and indirectly provided dollars for alternative energy investments. Let's face it, he inherited an economy circling the drain so all options to save it had to be considered. Also, consider your other choices at the time.

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    Another example of the use of Earth Observation in the Infrared range to fight Climate Change.

    Typhoon Matmo is preparing to make landfall along the coast of Taiwan. The Joint Typhoon Warning Center estimates the maximum sustained winds at 98 mph. NOAA image, below, from Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite (VIIRS) on Suomi NPP originated 0515Z on July 22, 2014.

    https://www.facebook.com/NASA.NPP/ph...type=1&theater
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    Not to get political but his administration has made significant inroads into the move to alternative fuels and transportation, and it's probably safe to say the increased oil production has helped the economy and indirectly provided dollars for alternative energy investments. Let's face it, he inherited an economy circling the drain so all options to save it had to be considered. Also, consider your other choices at the time.
    All true, and the other team may well have been even worse, but as noted in that article:

    Despite these warnings, Obama’s “all of the above” policies have in fact supported the increased development of key fossil fuel production sectors:
    • Obama has approved new offshore drilling permits for the Gulf of Mexico, the Arctic Ocean and (reversing a decades-long moratorium) off the East Coast.
    • Coal exports have risen to record levels under the Obama administration.
    • U.S. oil exports, banned for more than 40 years, are now being loosened by the Commerce Department, providing U.S. oil companies the opportunity to target lucrative markets in Europe and Asia, also spurring the economic incentive to increase production as well as consumption.

    The increase in U.S. oil production also helps accommodate a surge of growth in U.S. oil consumption. In 2013, U.S. oil consumption rose by more than 390,000 barrels per day from its levels in 2012, up to more than 18 million bbd. For the first time since 1999, the use of oil in the U.S. rose more rapidly than in the rest of the world. These trends in both oil production and consumption stand in direct opposition to the warning calls from the scientific community about the consequences of increased burning of fossil fuels.
    The greatest single failure that I would identify in this regard is the failure to increase the gasoline tax, which has decreased by 40% in real dollar (inflation adjusted) terms since it was last increased by Bill Clinton in 1993. An increase of the per gallon price from $0.184 to $0.307 would merely restore it to the same level as it was in 1993. In most European countries the tax is measured in terms of $dollars per gallon, not cents, and the level of consumption is a fraction of that in the US.

    As a result of this massive public policy failure, which is completely within the control of the Administration, the U.S. taxpayers are massively subsidizing the increased consumption of a product which the Administration acknowledges poses a real and imminent threat to the future of Western civilization.

    It time to push back against this policy insanity. Lobby for increased gasoline taxes to reduce the deficit and build out the high speed rail infrastructure required for the country's success in the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    Not to get political but his administration has made significant inroads into the move to alternative fuels and transportation, and it's probably safe to say the increased oil production has helped the economy and indirectly provided dollars for alternative energy investments. Let's face it, he inherited an economy circling the drain so all options to save it had to be considered. Also, consider your other choices at the time.
    yeah, the other side would not have been good at the time. But Obama could have said no to the Keystone Pipeline over a year ago, but has dragged it out and he could have talked about EVs in his latest State of the Union speech, but he did not. He talked instead about increasing the mpg on ICE cars which was a bunch of BS. He could even come out and stand up for the EV revolution, be the progressive leader he ran as in 2008, but has not. He's got nothing to loose at this point....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggies07 View Post
    yeah, the other side would not have been good at the time. But Obama could have said no to the Keystone Pipeline over a year ago, but has dragged it out and he could have talked about EVs in his latest State of the Union speech, but he did not. He talked instead about increasing the mpg on ICE cars which was a bunch of BS. He could even come out and stand up for the EV revolution, be the progressive leader he ran as in 2008, but has not. He's got nothing to loose at this point....
    I agree - I have been extremely disappointed by the lack of leadership - Said all of the right things in 2008, and has dismally failed to follow through.

    In the meantime it keeps getting warmer, and warmer and ...

    [top]Last Month Was the Hottest June of All Time

    For the second month in a row, June 2014 was the hottest month in history.

    The global sea surface temperature for Oceans in June was 1.15 degrees above the 20th century average of 61.5 degrees. That’s the highest for any June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.

    June broke heat records on every continent except Antarctica.

    All 12 of the world’s monthly heat records were set after 1997.
    See: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6 and http://ecowatch.com/2014/07/22/hotte...e59a9-85924237.


    But on a more positive note:

    University of Michigan and Muhlenberg College Study: Most Americans Support Carbon Tax if Revenue Supports Renewable Energy

    Conventional wisdom holds that a carbon tax is a political non-starter. However, results from the latest version of the National Surveys on Energy and Environment (NSEE) provide evidence of substantial public support for a tax on the carbon content of different fossil fuels when specific uses of tax revenue are attached. A majority of respondents support a revenue-neutral carbon tax, and an even larger majority support a carbon tax with revenues used to fund research and development for renewable energy programs. The carbon tax coupled with renewable energy research earns majority support across all political categories, including a narrow majority of Republicans.
    See: http://closup.umich.edu/files/ieep-n...carbon-tax.pdf

    Powering Villages With Solar Instead of Dirty Fossil Fuels

    See: http://ecowatch.com/2014/07/21/solar...-fossil-fuels/

    South Portland Passes Tar Sands Ordinance on Final Vote 6 to 1


    Ordinance Prohibits Terminal to Load Tar Sands Crude onto Tankers


    See: http://www.protectsouthportland.org/...A-F20A605476CE

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    Some advices to stop Climate Change:

    Stop Climate Change

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    A link concerning the Australian way to fight Climate Change:

    https://www.facebook.com/ClimateChan...type=1&theater


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