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    Just a hunch...Gen III released near time Google's Driveless car expected...Hmmm.

    Reading more about when and how the "Google driverless car" might be expected to evolve. Realizing it is all conjecture, the timeline is eerily similar to that expected (ballpark) for the Gen III. Google using a lot of the Prius right now...is this a match made in heaven? Google tech, Tesla built? That would be ENTIRELY disruptive, and not at all out of order for how Elon has focused on Silicon Valley for his venture. Imagine!

    Google's Trillion-Dollar Driverless Car -- Part 3: Sooner Than You Think - Forbes

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    I don't know if Google will use a Tesla, but I honestly think Elon likes to drive, not have a computer drive him around. I don't think Tesla will really help develop autonomous cars actively. They might give Google some deeper access to the car's control systems but I doubt even that.

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    Great thoughts. Many who are watching think the google car will first have an "on/off" for driverless for use on highways or traffic jams. Perfect for anyone who also likes to drive too. The CES Audi/toyota and upcoming Google versions are not cluttered with equipment inside now, just an Ipad sized control at the dash. Sound familiar? Can you think of a car that could continually be updated as the software for driverless deveops? (the software is THE thing that Google is developing, in fact all of the Google cars can "talk" and learn from each other). Know anyone that wants to change the world? First and foremost the Climate? Driverless is more efficient and saves lives in theory and in early results in practice. I can't imagine there haven't been discussions, it's only that the price is too high for the LIDAR and other equipment ($150k/car)that I don't think it will really happen at Gen III. But who else could do it and bring it in at lower costs than Google and Tesla? Google has said they want to license the tech of course, but realize they need someone to take on making the system. It's a trillion dollar, high-margin company that does...sound like a challenge anyone you know might take-on?

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    Google seems to favor Toyota hybrid products at the moment... Driverless Prius and Lexus RX...

    They have a fleet of EVs (like LEAF, iMiEV, FitEV, etc.) that they could have converted to driverless if they wanted, so it doesn't seem that the driverless car program is tied to their interests in EVs.

    They could have ordered and fitted a bunch of Model S by now if they wanted to, but (as far as I know) haven't done so.

    Perhaps they are trying to prove the point that their technology works for mainstream, mass produced vehicles, and don't want to seem directly associated with EVs since EVs are still just a niche product.

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    To me, one natural "marriage" would be Google Street view with the driverless cars.
    They send vehicles all over just to take pictures of the roadsides. Must get boring for the streetview car drivers after a while.
    What better app for the driverless car than to drive around a pre-defined route taking pictures of everything along the way.
    They probably already have the camera jig on the roof that could be used for both street-view and driverless navigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sffrog View Post
    - interestingly, a couple of cars were being prepped to be Google self-driving cars (which until now I have seen to be Lexus SUV hybrids). I would not be surprised if Tesla and Google were collaborating at several levels; no proof, just an interesting data point.
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    Can Google's driverless car burn a Dodge Viper SRT10 in a quarter mile race? I don't think so. I'll stick to my P85 thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yobigd20 View Post
    Can Google's driverless car burn a Dodge Viper SRT10 in a quarter mile race?
    If neither of the cars had drivers, yeah, I would think so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banahogg View Post
    From this recent thread:
    Random observations from the Menlo Park service center
    ...a couple of cars were being prepped to be Google self-driving cars...
    Well OK then... The "Random Model S sighting threads" will soon need to specify if the car was seen with a driver or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEG View Post
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    Well OK then... The "Random Model S sighting threads" will soon need to specify if the car was seen with a driver or not!

    Would be fun if they programmed them to take pictures of Teslas on the streets.

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    One year later, Elon agrees with me! About the timing anyhow...

    Elon Musk: Tesla Will Be First With Autonomous Driving; Admits To Apple Meeting - Forbes

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    Musk has said it's a long term priority, that he doesn't like Google's system because it's based on lidar, that he prefers "autopilot" to "self driving" and thinks 90% is very doable but completely eliminating the driver will be very hard. Look for Tesla to pick a sensor suite, probably camera based and comparatively inexpensive and just start putting it on Model S and X. Most of the rest is software, which will be gradually developed and autopilot features added by updates and driven by the flow of data back from cars on the road.

    i don't think Tesla's view is this is some all or nothing feature, but mostly software and something that will gradually evolve over many years, being called different things like adaptive cruise control, auto parallel park, automatic valet. Tesla's platform is better suited than anybody else's though so they expect to be in the lead.

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