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    100 mile batteries on the way

    Republican presumed Presidential Nominee says so:

    Alternative Energy: John McCain Thinks We'll Have 100-Mile-Per-Charge Batteries By Election?

    Below are links to his 300 million better battery idea.
    Last edited by vfx; 06-24-2008 at 08:55 AM. Reason: 3m idea added

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    Gee, how about 100 miles per charge by, oh, I don't know, 1999?
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    This proposes a nice $ prize for an advanced battery.

    Sen. McCain offers $300 million prize for new auto battery - Yahoo! News

    One manner in which to dramatically cut oil dependency is to have a large number of existing vehicles retrofitted with these advanced batteries - when they become available. The government can offer tax rebates and recycle unused ICE components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iz View Post
    This proposes a nice $ prize for an advanced battery.
    It's unclear to me what specifications for this "super battery" would be necessary to claim the prize. I'd think that if it were to be developed, making money selling the thing would be it's own prize.
    As a scientist, I find this a bit backwards. I'd prefer some of that money get spent to fund the actual research directly.

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    As a scientist, I find this a bit backwards. I'd prefer some of that money get spent to fund the actual research directly.
    Which research? Who decides which research to back up and which not?
    Here is your answer (ABC News: McCain: $300M Prize for Super Car Battery):
    In the quest for alternatives to oil, our government has thrown around enough money subsidizing special interests and excusing failure. From now on, we will encourage heroic efforts in engineering, and we will reward the greatest success,
    It is time scientists get payed for their success. And only success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarpedOne View Post
    Which research? Who decides which research to back up and which not?
    Here is your answer (ABC News: ABC News

    It is time scientists get payed for their success. And only success.
    Well I was thinking competitive grants within the universities. We write proposals, get site visits, and compete for grant money. In my field a lot of the money comes from DARPA, and I think the system works pretty well. You have to demonstrate a level of progress for your project to continue to get funding.
    A lot a good research gets done here at Stanford under that system and if successful often the are patents and startup companies that can be very lucrative. Thing is you need money in the first place to be able to do the research.
    I'm not saying that a prize is a bad idea per se, just that success is it's own prize.

    Part of research is failure. To say scientists should only be paid for success is a bit extreme. You'd have much fewer scientists. Already too few as it is.

    Sorry, your link didn't work for me.

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    Mc Cain, 300 million battery and Tesla

    Today Presidential hopeful John McCain said he would find 300 million dollars to reward someone to come up with the perfect EV battery.

    Google news had 525 articles on it and Autobloggreen covered it here:
    McCain proposes $300 million prize for better battery - AutoblogGreen

    Here's the thing though. He did it in front of a Tesla! Is the Roadster just a prop or does this hint at a partnership with the Republican and Tesla Motors?

    Never read any description of him with the car or a photo op with him and a Tesla employee or the car but here is a video grab of him walking to podium. (from K.O.)
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    We've already been discussing this in your other McCain battery thread here:
    http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/batte...eries-way.html
    If we still have any moderators around, maybe we can get the threads merged.

    Do you have a link to this video? The frame grab looks horrible. McCain looks like some unibrow alien robot. The ABG photo makes him look like a zombie ready to feed!


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