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    120 KWh batter in 2014?

    Sure wish this article was better sourced - this article (link below) on The Motley Fool includes a claim of 120 KWh batteries coming our way in 2014. Seems like a nice option to bring along with Model X (AWD, performance, 120 KWh battery pack - my fantasy Model X options are starting to sound expense ). And of course, then also retrofit and make available on S's.


    http://beta.fool.com/piyusharora/201...tcnnlnk0000001


    Has anybody seen this discussed anywhere else?
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    The content of the rest of the article is so weak I would put absolutely zero faith in the 120 kWh battery claim.
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    Sadly that was my reaction as well, but somebody willing to put that in print still got me thinking.
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    I have started to reverse engineer the battery tray size roughly and how many batteries you can fit in there. I came up with approximately 11,000 batteries max. Either you have some mighty powerful cells available or we have a new battery technology coming. I have done a lot of battery work in my career but not with Lithium.

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    I would REALLY like the option for a >85kwh battery in the Model X. It will be our long distance driving car. A frequent trip for us is a drive to a particular spot in the mountains that almost fully drains our Model S 85kwh battery in standard mode, and the X will have a smaller range with the same battery. No super charger on the way and probably won't be anytime soon since it's not a major route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dadaleus View Post
    I would REALLY like the option for a >85kwh battery in the Model X. It will be our long distance driving car. A frequent trip for us is a drive to a particular spot in the mountains that almost fully drains our Model S 85kwh battery in standard mode, and the X will have a smaller range with the same battery. No super charger on the way and probably won't be anytime soon since it's not a major route.
    This. Honestly, I'd pay more for a bigger pack in my current S. As I was discussing with someone today, I underestimated how many miles I drive and over estimated how much ACTUAL range I could get out of the pack (without driving 55 with no heat). With that 30% increase in range, I could get closer to 300 actual miles per charge.

    I think putting a 120kwh pack in the X might mean the same amount of range I see in the S currently though

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    Quote Originally Posted by richkae View Post
    The content of the rest of the article is so weak I would put absolutely zero faith in the 120 kWh battery claim.
    I tend to agree. I read this and, honestly, with as much time I waste - er, uh - spend on this forum, I could have written all the rest of the information and thrown the 120 in as a Santa dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adiggs View Post
    Seems like a nice option to bring along with Model X (AWD, performance, 120 KWh battery pack - my fantasy Model X options are starting to sound expense
    I am really hoping that this will be the case with the model X. The question is if they will drop the 60 kwh battery and offer the 120 and 85 at the 85 and 60 price points or if they will offer a 120, 85 and 60 kwh options...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adiggs View Post
    Sure wish this article was better sourced - this article (link below) on The Motley Fool includes a claim of 120 KWh batteries coming our way in 2014. Seems like a nice option to bring along with Model X (AWD, performance, 120 KWh battery pack - my fantasy Model X options are starting to sound expense ). And of course, then also retrofit and make available on S's.


    http://beta.fool.com/piyusharora/201...tcnnlnk0000001


    Has anybody seen this discussed anywhere else?
    The article says that Tesla stated that 120 KWh batteries will be available in 2014. I would like it were confirmed from Tesla. But from the above comments it looks like that there is no confirmation from Tesla. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raffy View Post
    The article says that Tesla stated that 120 KWh batteries will be available in 2014. I would like it were confirmed from Tesla. But from the above comments it looks like that there is no confirmation from Tesla. Right?
    AFAIK, the largest battery Tesla ever announced is 85 kWh (for both Model S and Model X). The Model X will only have two options: 60 kWh and 85 kWh. If they ever officially announced something bigger, I'm sure there would be a thread dedicated to it here.

    On the other hand, the next-gen version of the 3100mAh cells the 85kWh pack uses is already out in the market. It's called the NCR18650B (vs the NCAR18650A in the Model S) and is 3400mAh. That means 1.097x the battery size with no change in volume and nearly no change in weight. That means a 93kWh battery is possible today, although ten months ago I predicted it being in a car on 2014 at the earliest, given the 2 year lag the previous batteries took.

    We had a similar thread on this topic here:
    http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showt...l=1#post111988
    Last edited by stopcrazypp; 2012-12-15 at 06:42 PM.
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