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    That's what I was thinking. At least they have some real world testing results as opposed to theoretical results.

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    Yes. Envia has real world test results. As of March 2012 they had cycled the 45 Ah cells 400 times. The 3rd party battery pack concept however may not be feasible in the near future given vehicle warranty issues.

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    Not sure what you mean by third party battery pack. Tesla uses Panasonic cells, they could instead use Envia cells, or cells from any manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    Not sure what you mean by third party battery pack. Tesla uses Panasonic cells, they could instead use Envia cells, or cells from any manufacturer.
    It would be awesome if they could use more advanced cells. My perspective on the 3rd party packs is that some battery manufacturers will choose to sell their packs to vehicle owners directly rather than collaborating with the vehicle manufacturer, perhaps to remain neutral.

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    Since very few vehicle owners will be swapping out their own battery packs the OEM market is going to be far larger, and what any cell manufacturer needs to go after to be successful.

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    Expect a Petersen gloat fest on this one.

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    http://wardsauto.com/vehicles-amp-te...YM_MID=1325527

    The ultrafast nickel-iron battery is a potential alternative to the Li-ion batteries used in EVs such as the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt, which can store a lot of energy but typically take hours to charge.

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    Doesn't sound as if it has any potential at all to power EV's. Charge and discharge speed is not really the issue with lithium batteries.

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    not an EV battery but for grid application
    GE's Novel Battery to Bolster the Grid - Technology Review

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