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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert.Boston View Post
    That makes my brain hurt.
    The second part is that because it's going twice as fast, the air pressure from the speed collapses the belts and causes the tire to self-destruct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry33 View Post
    The second part is that because it's going twice as fast, the air pressure from the speed collapses the belts and causes the tire to self-destruct.
    This is why engineers need to run the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSupreme View Post
    This is why engineers need to run the world.

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    I would, but the world can't handle rational leaders.

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    I've worked on plenty of products that make me question the rationality of engineers

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    I've worked on plenty of products that make me question the rationality of engineers
    You sure they weren't "Project Managers"?

    Oh there are a LOT of bad engineers out there. It is scary.

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    Interesting article by Jim Motavalli about battery developments.

    Battery Breakthroughs | Car Talk
    Buying an EV is one thing, being able to drive it beyond city limits another...

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    Battery stuff:
    Cloud based battery prototyping from ElectronVault, ex-Tesla employee Rob Ferber.
    Passive thermal battery management, could reduce cost, complexity, and energy usage of pack cooling.
    More silicon nanotube goodies from Yi Cui.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    More silicon nanotube goodies from Yi Cui.
    Nanotubes are the next "plastics" for investing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norbert View Post
    Thanks for finding and posting this article. Seems as if the 500+ mile battery is still a few years away. Elon said they can produce a 500-mile battery pack now. However, the weight, cost and recharge time are not feasible. I think this technology will jump by leaps and bounds when Model S and X are on the roads by the thousands. It would be a big incentive to further research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP3 View Post
    More silicon nanotube goodies from Yi Cui.
    This caught my eye:
    Batteries containing these double-walled silicon nanotube anodes exhibit charge capacities approximately eight times larger than conventional carbon anodes and charging rates of up to 20C (a rate of 1C corresponds to complete charge or discharge in one hour).
    20C !?! That would allow the battery to charge completely in 5 minutes. Of course, getting 85kWh of power into a battery in 5 minutes requires a rate of charging of about 1,900 kW (including losses). Pzzzap!

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