60KWH roll-in - B5 theory: they won't do it til after Jan1

[Grendal]

Perhaps, but I think that they won't even think of the 60s before the end of the year, even if everything was approved.

Here's why: anything different might slow the factory, and they want to blow their delivery estimate for the end of the year out of the water - therefore reduce the risk, and ship 4K or more. It drives their stock price up early next year when they announce beating expectations.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Thoughts?

I think you're dead on. Plus, I'm sure the profit margin is higher and just simply more profit to be had on Max Pack cars. That will help to show everyone that Tesla will reach Elon's announced goal of making profit by next year and being cash flow positive before the end of this year.

Tesla Motors CEO: We Expect to Be Profitable Next Year | Fox Business Video

[ahimberg]

@aimberg, you are right after me and just down the street (I'm in Issaquah), I'd bet we get ours at the same time, maybe in a delivery party, thanks for sending off an email to TM!

Good odds of that yeah! I will choose the earliest time they offer me though, no offense

[Ceilidh]

I have to say it is hard watching folks who reserved much later than me get their cars so much sooner... damn my cashflow.

Having said that, I am still glad I took the $10K I would have spent on upgrading to the 85kWh Battery and put solar on my roof. Once the car is here I'll be glad I can drive it on pure sunlight most (if not all) of the time.

I am happy that so many peeps are hearing good things from Tesla. I just hope us paupers with 60 kWh reservations hear something good soon as well...

Cheers.


Just to clarify: I put Solar on the roof of my house, not on the roof of the car, which I also don't own yet, because I ordered the 60 kWh battery.

[Babylonfive]

My money is still for 60's to ship in the Fall. So what is the last day of Fall again?

Thanks @vcor, @discoducky, etc. and that would be a great feather in the cap if they could say they started shipment (with even a few), but the rejiggering of the line seems like a risk that's not acceptable for the level of value, compared to getting more of a 'drum beat' of success: start fall deliveries of 85, beat the delivery estimate for fall/2012, start 60s in spring, start 40s in late spring?

[Vger]

I think you're dead on. Plus, I'm sure the profit margin is higher and just simply more profit to be had on Max Pack cars.

This is probably the biggest driver, they need the gross margin and the attendant cash flow in this Q4, just as much as the overall numbers. A few 60's would not dilute much, but if the logistics are an issue at all, why would they risk it?

[Ceilidh]

A few 60's would not dilute much, but if the logistics are an issue at all, why would they risk it?

Because some of us who ordered 60 kWh batteries put down our reservation the opening week 3.5 years ago? Might want to be more thankful to the early believer despite income levels. Only putting out the most pricey cars adds to the public opinion (that is still pretty strong thanks to the recent political season) that Tesla only makes cars for the rich.

IMHO it would make sense for them to quell this concern by churning out some lower priced cars ASAP so they can say they make cars that are cheaper than $100k.

Just a thought.

PS--Your forum screen name cracks me up. I keep picturing the bald chick every time I see it, if I am interpreting your reference correctly...

Cheers.

[Babylonfive]

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PS--Your forum screen name cracks me up. I keep picturing the bald chick every time I see it, if I am interpreting your reference correctly...

Cheers.

Yea, I thought it was the first Star Trek movie, as well...

[ahimberg]

So I got a response but nothing detailed, just that I'm on track for early 2013 delivery. (they didn't respond to when 60's in general go into production)
guess we can hope for the tesla bulletin board to get an official answer soon

I also asked about getting the 12way+heated textile seats but the response was you have to delay into the 2013 post price increase to get that option.

[Iz]

I also asked about getting the 12way+heated textile seats but the response was you have to delay into the 2013 post price increase to get that option.

I am a 60kWh reservation (#1431). Delaying an order until the heated textile seats are available may exclude one from having access to the Supercharger Network. Something to look into.

[ahimberg]

I am a 60kWh reservation (#1431). Delaying an order until the heated textile seats are available may exclude one from having access to the Supercharger Network. Something to look into.

There was a mention on one of the other threads of someone who said their DS was going to let them change their config (maybe to Red?) and keep the SC credit. Unknown if they'll do the same just for changing your config for seats. While I'd really like them too, waiting an additional 4 months is not worth it... (plus my wife hates heated seats since heat is bad for certain types of back problems.. she'd want a seat ice-r)