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    Quote Originally Posted by KBF View Post
    @Olivier, keep us posted! I'd love to meet you all in South-East Manitoba! Any idea when you'll be there? Maybe I can keep my schedule open for it...
    Hi KBF,

    The schedule is not done yet for manitoba. When dong this type of launch it is hard to redict more than a week in advance who knows what can happen

    What i can tell you is next week is ontario (toronto) so manitoba is not fsr away.

    I'll put a post for every province when. Get the schedule so you are aware of where we are the next week.

    I'll also try to post some pics tomorrow of me and a beautiful Model S. We are lucky to have an owner doing a part of the tour with us. Should go all the way to Quebec city with us.

    Don't forget to follow us on twitter (@suncountryhwy) and
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier007 View Post
    So the model number is the unit voltage (cs90 - 90 amps - 72 continuous)
    Actually he means current, not voltage. All the chargers are 220V. The nominal circuit capacity for the big chargers is 90A which allows for up to 72A continuous. (These are Clipper Creek conventions.)

    As has been mentioned the charge rate in km/hour will be affected by the actual voltage present. At my house I reliably get 240V on my Roadster HPC, but the Sun Country charger at our office comes in a little under 200V due to our office's nominal 208V power (we have 3-phase power). That's about a big a difference as you'll ever see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_G View Post
    Actually he means current, not voltage. All the chargers are 220V. The nominal circuit capacity for the big chargers is 90A which allows for up to 72A continuous. (These are Clipper Creek conventions.)

    As has been mentioned the charge rate in km/hour will be affected by the actual voltage present. At my house I reliably get 240V on my Roadster HPC, but the Sun Country charger at our office comes in a little under 200V due to our office's nominal 208V power (we have 3-phase power). That's about a big a difference as you'll ever see!
    Thanks Doug for this correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_G View Post
    Actually he means current, not voltage. All the chargers are 220V. The nominal circuit capacity for the big chargers is 90A which allows for up to 72A continuous. (These are Clipper Creek conventions.)
    Since we're picking nits, nominal voltages in Canada at the Service Entrance (per CSA CAN-C235-83 Table 3.0) are 120/240 volts for split phase systems and 120/208 volts for 3-phase systems. Normal operating Min/Max permissable levels are 110/216 to 125/250 volts for split phase systems and 112/190 to 125/216 volts for 3-phase systems. The Sun Country chargers appear to be rated 208 to 240 volts which is in line with these CSA standards.

    The reason I mention this is because some equipment can be damaged by voltages outside of these bands, and since the Tesla charger is on board, it might not be good for the inverter to see voltages above 250 or below 110 (at least on North American models).

    If voltages are observed at the building's service entrance outside of these normal operating condition bands, it is up to the electric utility to take corrective action.

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    Tesla's technology protects itself. If the voltage is not within range it will not charge. In fact if the voltage drops too much when it ramps up the current it aborts and chastises you for using an extension cord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_G View Post
    Tesla's technology protects itself. If the voltage is not within range it will not charge. In fact if the voltage drops too much when it ramps up the current it aborts and chastises you for using an extension cord.
    Good to know, and well thought out by Tesla. Since they've designed the car to "plug in anywhere" it makes sense that it protect itself. (It would make the electric utility life much easier if more products did this )

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    I am planning on taking my Roadster to meet up with them in Boucherville tomorrow. Love the idea of being able to roam across Canada on electricity. This should shut the mouths of many of these people who constantly ask me what would I do if i wanted to go from Montreal to Toronto!
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    They'll be in Ottawa on Thursday and Friday. Planning to meet up with them, assuming I can get my tire fixed.

    (I had been driving a little bit with my pretty worn A048's on the rear. No way I'm gonna do that now that there's snow and ice here and there!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by znino View Post
    I am planning on taking my Roadster to meet up with them in Boucherville tomorrow. Love the idea of being able to roam across Canada on electricity. This should shut the mouths of many of these people who constantly ask me what would I do if i wanted to go from Montreal to Toronto!
    As enthused as I am about all this, a 70 amp charger is still going to take 4-6 hours to completely charge a Model S from "empty". I've been trying to figure if I'll be able to do the drive from Toronto to Chicago to see my daughter, and it doesn't look particularly easy. In the ICE, I do the 550 mile trip in about 8 hours with 1 fuel stop. In a Model S (prior to Superchargers) I'll probably have to make an overnight stop and maybe even more extended top up stops along the way.

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    Hopefully what we'll ultimately end up with is a Supercharger backbone with 70A, uh, ribs.
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