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    Quote Originally Posted by NotTarts View Post
    .... With other cars they might say "Base price: $60k, Configured: $95k", whereas when listing the Model S Performance they say something like "Base price: $95k, Configured: $96k" rather than listing the true base price of $58k.....
    I don' t disagree. But probably no other car has every been offered with three different sized gas tanks. Certainly no car has had three ranges before. A new language is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    I don' t disagree. But probably no other car has every been offered with three different sized gas tanks. Certainly no car has had three ranges before. A new language is necessary.
    I don't think a "new language" is necessary here. Let's take an example.

    2013 BMW 3-Series Prices, Specs & Reviews - Motor Trend Magazine

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    $36,500 - $60,800

    Wouldn't they say "base price $36,500" even though there are 12 different engine flavors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    I don' t disagree. But probably no other car has every been offered with three different sized gas tanks. Certainly no car has had three ranges before. A new language is necessary.
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    I don't think a "new language" is necessary here. Let's take an example.

    2013 BMW 3-Series Prices, Specs & Reviews - Motor Trend Magazine

    BMW 3 series.
    $36,500 - $60,800

    Wouldn't they say "base price $36,500" even though there are 12 different engine flavors?
    The different battery sizes are dissimilar enough in terms of range and fuel economy to justify separation. I can agree with that, and Motor Trend's website thinks the same way, listing the Model S base price as $77k and going up to $105k with options. But something like a Performance or Signature models? They aren't different cars at all, just the same car with a more powerful powertrain or added features.

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    It was because they tested a Sig and in that case the base price is $95k or whatever. If/when they test a GP car they can list the base at 57,500, as-tested, whatever. One could also make the case that the Perf model is unique. When they test a BMW M5 they list the base price of an M5, not a 528i.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vfx View Post
    I don' t disagree. But probably no other car has every been offered with three different sized gas tanks. Certainly no car has had three ranges before. A new language is necessary.
    While I'm sure it's uncommon, there are vehicles that come with different size gas tanks depending upon options selected. For instance, the 1/2 ton Suburban comes with a 30 gallon tank while my 3/4 ton has a 40 gallon version.

    To my mind the cleanest way to discuss Model S is to say that it comes in four variations (40, 60, 85 and Performance) and to simply leave the Signature series out of it. They've been sold out for months.
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    OK, stupid question but if you win in one year are you excluded from the competition the following year?
    What's up with the 2014 COTY award?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    OK, stupid question but if you win in one year are you excluded from the competition the following year?
    What's up with the 2014 COTY award?
    I believe the award is only for new or significantly changed models, not every car that is for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mknox View Post
    I believe the award is only for new or significantly changed models, not every car that is for sale.
    Mike has the right of it. Only new/redesigned cars qualify. Tesla's next shot will be COTY 2015 with Model X. Or perhaps the oft-rumored AWD Model S.
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