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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelM View Post
    Where do you see that?
    Twitter / elonmusk: Tesla made 100 vehicle bodies ...
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    Tesla made 100 vehicle bodies this week for the first time. Really proud of the team! Pic of S/N 396
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    Reservation holders are not some monolithic uniform group. Anyone reading the forums knows there are hundreds of different opinions being debated here. It is a mistake to assume that the OP speaks for the reservation holders. I, for example, do not share the OP's opinions on the issues cited.

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    Also to me this reads the service must be done by a Tesla Tech but it does not say that the owner must bring it in to have it done. Only that servicing by a non-Tesla tech will void the warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Harney View Post
    Also to me this reads the service must be done by a Tesla Tech but it does not say that the owner must bring it in to have it done. Only that servicing by a non-Tesla tech will void the warranty.
    That's what GeorgeB said, but it's not what the warranty says. The text of the warranty controls, not a blog post or a message on a third-party forum. Read the text for yourself HERE. The relevant passage is:
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    • Any repair, alteration or modification of the vehicle, or the installation
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    Quote Originally Posted by kroneal View Post
    Reservation holders are not some monolithic uniform group. Anyone reading the forums knows there are hundreds of different opinions being debated here. It is a mistake to assume that the OP speaks for the reservation holders. I, for example, do not share the OP's opinions on the issues cited.
    +1 right here. Not to mention that the participants on this forum are but a small minority subset of the reservation holders.

    Additionally a news article would NOT help anything. If anything it would just damage Tesla's possibilities of succeeding, and I don't think anyone of us wants to see that. It's already been proven that Tesla reads our opinions on this forum. Having it plastered on a news site/paper would not do anything but damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDave View Post
    I didn't mean to imply 396 was the actual VIN, just that the frame has a VIN.....
    Wonder what parts have numbers that are matched to the VIN? Will collectors in the future want to blueprint these early cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDave View Post
    You lost me on this one. Should I have said the frame has a VIN associated with it already, would that wording work better?
    What I got out of it was, "What are all the parts that have VIN number markings?". In an ICE car there are a number of parts marked with the VIN number so that they can be traced if the car is stolen and disassembled. Teslas don't have an ICE, but there may be other parts that are marked.
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    S/N is a standard abbreviation for serial number, which is what I assume Elon was referring to. That would indicate the 396th body made. I would not assume that such a body would necessarily be a part of the vehicle with VIN 396. Some parts might not pass QA and would either be rejected outright or sent back to the line for correction. Plus, some parts will just be stockpiled, and frankly, it doesn't (or shouldn't) matter which of those goes into which car, assuming the parts are no longer being significantly tweaked. Most likely, every part has a serial number, so they can track defects and just manage inventory.

    Also, from the Department of Redundancy Department, please don't say VIN number; just say VIN. VIN stands for Vehicle Identification Number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm In Awe View Post
    Tesla, stop peddling your cars in Europe...
    Now what kind of remark is that? If Tesla want to stand any chance of selling 20.000 or more vehicles a year they damn well better care for other markets than just the US too.

    And it's not that Tesla are doing much to promote the Model S here. They are trying to sell off the last Roadsters, but as far as the Model S is concerned, no info, no advertising, not even the store personnel can tell you anything specific.

    So don't get worked up, we don't get any "amps" right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinPowers View Post
    Now what kind of remark is that? If Tesla want to stand any chance of selling 20.000 or more vehicles a year they damn well better care for other markets than just the US too.

    And it's not that Tesla are doing much to promote the Model S here. They are trying to sell off the last Roadsters, but as far as the Model S is concerned, no info, no advertising, not even the store personnel can tell you anything specific.

    =So don't get worked up, we don't get any "amps" right now.
    +1. I was bored well before I got to this point, and when I got to the tiresome "peddling your cars in Europe"... I laughed and realised this was parochial nonsense. Bless and diddums, are you worried that the focus is being taken off the good ol' US of A and that awful incomprehensible Yerp is somehow "taking over"? I will add to AustinPowers comments and tell you this: there ain't ANY emphasis on Yerp regarding Model S, in fact Yerpeans are getting a little tired of the lack of information. So, Tesla IS almost 100% concentrating on the USA. Also, I would agree with the comment "Reservation holders are not some monolithic uniform group". Absoflaminlutely. You do not in any way speak for everyone!

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