donauker

From the ongoing anti-Tesla rants it would appear that we now have a foreign incarnation of
Ken/Kent/Kerry Beauchrt/Beuchert/Beuchrt/Biker/Rider/Krider

donauker

Since people seem inclined to judging and condemning Tesla for every possible thing they can it should probably be pointed out that this is not the Mobile Charge Unit that will be sold to customers. This is a Tesla project box/test unit.

malcolm

Personally, I welcome Finkenbusch's approach.

After all, we do have our "negative website" moniker to live up to.

Cobos

May I suggest you take a look at Xerox newfangled control system before you start praising Apple too loudly. What Apple did was take some research projects and ideas other people had invented, pack them all together in a at-the-time attractive package and sell them. The combination was novel the ideas was not, a bit like using laptop batteries (not cellphone) for a car.

As has been mentioned there are 2 highway capable EV cars on the market today which you can buy and get a delivery date for, Tesla Roadster and Think City. And looking at the specs and efficiency and such, there is no doubt that the Roadster is best. I might add the Think's fit and finish is comparable to Tesla's Roadster and they had Ford design the car. They should know how to make a finished product like car.

Cobos

TEG

Apple certainly didn't start with the Mac. I first saw them in the Byte Shop in the 1970s, and they looked like this:

It wasn't until 8 years later that they hit the style jackpot with the Mac.

And don't forget, Mac was born of Lisa.

malcolm

Ah the Apple II. What memories.

doug

While I also appreciate Finkenbusch's energy and enthusiasm, he has a penchant for going wildly off topic. Finkenbusch, if you have something to say that's not in the spirit of the current thread, please find a more appropriate thread, or create a new one, most likely in the off topic section.

This is a perception I would like to go away.

donauker

To each his own I guess. I would say his posts are much more fitting for TTAC. I don't mind negativity if it is based on facts, but it really does get tiring when they are continual extreme attacks on things the individual has no firsthand or in-depth information on.

I have driven the car and I will say I can hardly wait until early next year when I expect to take delivery of mine. I have also seen and handled the project box shown above and spoken with Tesla reps about the current status of the future Mobile Charging Unit.

I also have enough knowledge of electronics to know that what Tesla has in there ESS/battery pack doesn't exist anywhere else and won't for quite some time to come. Who else is close to having a production ready 53 kWh battery pack that has met both US automotive crash testing and all US DOT regulation for transfer via air freight?

malcolm

I believe that there is progress in that direction. We seem to be.....mellowing. And there is an argument that if much of the rest of the net is hostile then Tesla Motors Club should be a haven of support and uplift (I seem to have drifted into bra metaphors. Sorry about that.)

However, forgetting company history and moving on, Martin is still a Tesla customer who has been on the receiving end of some "avant garde" customer service.

Then again is it getting ridiculous for us to keep playing the "Martin" card as if it legitimates our various mumblings and rantings as some sort of service to the wider EV community or even to Tesla?

Everyone enjoys a good car crash (sorry Martin) and it is always our most controvertial threads which generate the hits.

So my (even more off-topic) question is: Is Fikenbusch good for business?

dpeilow

The Tesla Roadster (an EV that matches the performance of Ferraris and Porches that one can at least place an order for) is a completely NEW breakthrough, a paradigm shift of enormous proportions, changing the way most folks see the electric car that leaves chins hanging and ahhhs and ooohs sound.

Let's not forget, most people in the UK think EV = milkfloat / golf cart / G-Wizz and I suspect the same perception exists elsewhere. You only have to watch Top Gear to see what I mean. The Telsa is changing that for everyone who sees it in action. Even if the company folds tomorrow, the genie is out of the bottle with regards to what putting Li ion batteries in a desirable car can do and in that respect the Roadster already has its place in history.

Let's also not forget that the Mac has never really got more than around 10% market share. The IBMs and Microsofts of this world came along a couple of years later with a product for the masses. Perhaps the same will be true of Tesla / GM.