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06-05-2008, 11:34 PM
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It's worth a read, but she also has this hangup on battery swap stations. If you discard the battery swap issue point 1 and 2 goes out. The Renault-Nissan car uses regular standard power, it doesn't need specialflavored electrons. She continues to spread the myth about batteries wear out quickly.
She does have a point in that this might increase number of cars in Israel quite a bit, and for congestion purposes building train/light rail is a lot more sensible.
Then she comes with the silly Israel burns coal argument, so what, using dirty coal EVs are still MORE efficient, and from there it can only go up. Not to mention the security argument of foreign oil, which should be VERY relevant to Israel.
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06-17-2008, 07:58 AM
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06-17-2008, 09:43 AM
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Good article. Best overall view of the PBP to date.
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08-01-2008, 01:36 PM
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08-01-2008, 01:42 PM
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I will be shocked if cars are on the road by the end of 2008. If it happens, smaller countries, in particular island countries like Britain, Japan, etc. may buy in to Shai's idea. I hope it works.
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08-01-2008, 03:19 PM
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I don't think 2008 is quite accurate. Prototypes are likely to arrive in 2009. Limited production to start in 2010 and then mass production will happen in 2011. The car shown in the video is just a conversion. Shai Agassi has mentioned that he hopes to have 50 conversions ready this year to use in Israel for giving test drives and getting people educated and used to what an electric car feels like to drive.
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08-25-2008, 09:31 AM
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08-25-2008, 10:02 AM
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At some point Big Oil will begin a smear campaign against Shai. Of course they will fight the logic but they will attack the messenger. Who knows? Maybe KB is the tip of the paid iceberg.
By the way, there were some well reasoned comments on this page. Not counting the one that said, "douche bags".
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08-28-2008, 11:37 AM
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