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Old 01-29-2009, 01:17 AM   #51
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The volumetric density of the pack is 40% better. The overall cooling effectiveness is quite a bit better. Energy per unit of volume, energy per unit of mass is higher. Cost is lower on the pack.
He first says volumetric density of the pack, then per unit of mass. I wonder if they are using new cells, or possibly just worked out a way to cram more into the volume of the ESS/pack, or some combination of both?
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:22 AM   #52
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Marty Padgett's blog: Elon Musk Still Spinning - The Car Connection

Some misleading / unkind statements here methinks.

Also, this person has popped up a couple of times in the last day:

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Tesla has failed
By EV Car Truth | Posted: Jan 28th 2009, 05:44:37 PM
Tesla has let America down. They need to go away now and let the others take the lead:
Cheating:
Profile of Paypal and SpaceX cofounder and Tesla Motors Chairman Elon Musk - Boing Boing
Battery Deal:
Some complete speculation on the Daimler-Tesla deal - AutoblogGreen
Lawsuits:
Cleantech: Tesla finds the electric car business is a litigious one
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Tesla Increases Prices on Locked-In Orders - Tom Saxton's Blog
Bad karma from the start:
Tesla's Musk Calls Cofounder "The Worst Individual I've Ever Worked With"
More problems:
More Sparks From Tesla - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com
Green Fuels Forecast
Tesla single handedly sets back the electric vehicle industry by 10 years Is this thing on?
Pissing off the customers:
Tesla to Angry Customers: It’s All About Us | The Truth About Cars

Another KB?
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:54 AM   #53
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In light of recent events these words continue to haunt me:
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Eberhard, the ousted cofounder, says Musk interfered with the design of the roadster, demanding changes that were costly and led to delays. These included installing electronic door latches, building a lightweight carbon-fiber body and lowering the doorsill by two inches. "It cost us $1.5 million to lower that doorsill," Eberhard says. "We would have been better off to have a simpler car shipping a year earlier." Musk says his design changes were not the cause of delays.
I'm sure they would have sold just as many cars without all these changes, and they could have been implemented as improvements to later models. How much more did all of these changes add to the cost of the vehicle? Seems like a terrible business decision that could lead to the downfall of Tesla and one that was totally unnecessary and avoidable.
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:02 AM   #54
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This is the one that haunts me:
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Will be market to service cars even if Tesla is no longer around.
That one sounded like "maybe we won't be around forever".

We all want honesty, but I expect more optimism on something like that.
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:49 PM   #55
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But then there is always eternal hope from this one:
Tesla CEO Elon Musk: 'Never had a failure, and I'm not going to add one now' (Tech Confidential - Behind The Money Blog)
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It's funny how perfectly he juxtaposes Mr. Honda's quote.
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