Model S delays? - Page 2

graham · 09-01-2008, 09:47 PM

Nothing new on the Owners Forum either.

Based on other chatter from Tesla, I am assuming we will not hear all the details of the Model S until we get near the end of the year.

Laurent · 09-01-2008, 10:09 PM

I went to the MP store on Saturday to take VP11 for a spin. I was told that Model S was originally going to be shown at the L.A. auto show but that it's now unlikely. My bet is that they'll unveil it at a special event at their L.A. store in December.

Sgee · 09-02-2008, 12:11 PM

Wow then there are definetely some serious delays.

I guess this just leaves the roadster to talk abou.t.

graham · 09-02-2008, 12:26 PM

There have been definite delays from the "we plan to unveil the Whitestar in Q2 2008" -- but it is unclear that there are delays in "we plan to start delivering the Model S in late 2010."

I hope they can still hit that date. It is looking risky at this point.

Laurent · 09-02-2008, 12:36 PM

Given that the Roadster is essentially a year late, I don't expect to see the sedan before mid 2011 at the earliest.

Cobos · 09-02-2008, 01:21 PM

Since these not necissarily are related I wouldn't say the Model S has to be delayed yet. Or it can be delayed from early 2010 which may have been the plan to late 2010. Since they've always said 2010 we would be none the wiser. I do hope we see the Whitestar soon. There are sketches of early drafts around obviously as Siry has shown media and the contact from Tesla mentioned when I drove the Roadster.

Cobos

graham · 09-02-2008, 10:00 PM

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That led to further production delays, & even Drivetrain 1.5 hasn't gone thru a Durability/Reliability testing program

Do you know this for a fact? I would assume that the delay between coming up with the design for 1.5 back in January, and putting it production cars (not for another month or two) is because they are doing Durability/Reliability testing. If they aren't, why not just use it from the beginning of production this past March? The design was complete back then.

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But, to now hear about delays in "S"..this sounds like "same old same old". I guarantee you, this persistent pattern of under-delivering will cause great harm to their brand-name/reputation.

Well, most of the "delays" you are hearing about are mere speculation on this board (admittedly some of which by me). As of about 10 days ago, Tesla representatives were telling me that they still plan on getting the Model S out in late 2010 (which is not a delay). What has been delayed is showing the public the final design. This may be a cause for concern... but may also be Tesla Motors trying not to over-promise/ under-deliver as you put it. Certainly we can be concerned, but I don't know that it is worth a 2 page diatribe at this point. Their timeline is starting to seem a bit rushed, but they specifically said they could still meet their 2010 date if they finalized the design by the end of this year.

stopcrazypp · 09-02-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by graham

Well, most of the "delays" you are hearing about are mere speculation on this board (admittedly some of which by me). As of about 10 days ago, Tesla representatives were telling me that they still plan on getting the Model S out in late 2010 (which is not a delay). What has been delayed is showing the public the final design.

Yes, this point has to be emphasized. While we know there is a delay of unveiling the final design, we do NOT know if Model S is is delayed. Ask the general public or even posters at the various auto blogs (who generally keep up more with auto news) and I can bet almost none of them are even aware Tesla Motors had a planned date for unveiling the Model S design. For the public, once you unveil the design of the car, they start paying attention and if something wrong happens they are going to cling onto it. Again, my guess is Tesla is trying to get further on the car before unveiling it so they have reasonable confidence nothing big goes wrong afterwards (ie. like the transmission troubles of the Roadster).

doug · 10-15-2008, 02:25 PM

Tesla Motors - think

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The net result will be a delay in start of production of the Model S of roughly six months to mid-2011. On the plus side, we will spend the extra time refining the vehicle design and powertrain technology, so the car will end up being slightly better.

Does this delay of the Model S put it at a competitive disadvantage?

WarpedOne · 10-15-2008, 02:33 PM

No.

What other pure EV worth of its name will be "available" in 2011?