<![CDATA[Tesla Motors Club - Enthusiasts & Owners Forum - Electric Vehicles]]> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/ Discussion about Electric Vehicles other than Tesla Motors en Wed, 22 May 2013 15:29:54 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/images/misc/rss.png <![CDATA[Tesla Motors Club - Enthusiasts & Owners Forum - Electric Vehicles]]> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/ <![CDATA[What my Prius has and Tesla doesn't.]]> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/17055-What-my-Prius-has-and-Tesla-doesn-t?goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 09:59:13 GMT Dear all,

I really am a Tesla enthusiast and a near future buyer. However:

► My Prius has: (1) A sunglasses place in the ceiling. (2) Sun-covers (however you call it) with mirrors and automatic lights and stronger than the this plastic ones in the Tesla. (3) Ceiling grips above all doors. (4) Adjustable head rests. (5) GPS that can set to the direction the car goes (not only North). (6) In all doors room for 'things' even drinks.

So, nothing is perfect on this planet.

Regards,

Walter ]]> Electric Vehicles WaWa http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/17055-What-my-Prius-has-and-Tesla-doesn-t Hybrid Electric Car Ferry http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16882-Hybrid-Electric-Car-Ferry?goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 21:28:48 GMT Prius of the Sea: Danish Firm Preps Launch of Worlds Biggest Hybrid Ferry | Autopia | Wired.com... Prius of the Sea: Danish Firm Preps Launch of Worlds Biggest Hybrid Ferry | Autopia | Wired.com ]]> Electric Vehicles richkae http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16882-Hybrid-Electric-Car-Ferry Conserving electricity for EV use http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16757-Conserving-electricity-for-EV-use?goto=newpost Mon, 13 May 2013 15:32:55 GMT So you can drive an EV 100 miles with the energy it takes to make one joint? ... So you can drive an EV 100 miles with the energy it takes to make one joint?

http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2013...ney/index.html ]]> Electric Vehicles vfx http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16757-Conserving-electricity-for-EV-use Mission Motorcycles http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16725-Mission-Motorcycles?goto=newpost Sun, 12 May 2013 13:33:58 GMT With the last thread being over a year old and this topic is now being talked about in the future tesla section, I felt it deserved its own thread.... With the last thread being over a year old and this topic is now being talked about in the future tesla section, I felt it deserved its own thread. I'm primarily curious about range and pricing. Anyone have any ideas? If not I guess we will have to wait till June 3rd as indicated by their website.

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]]> Electric Vehicles FlightLevels http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16725-Mission-Motorcycles Wanted: a credible EV lifecycle cost study http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16675-Wanted-a-credible-EV-lifecycle-cost-study?goto=newpost Fri, 10 May 2013 21:04:11 GMT I'm looking for something to help me defend EVs against the people who come up to me and say things like, "My brother did some research and he says that the carbon cost of building EV battery packs is so high you'll never make it up in use."

A search of the forums didn't yield what I need; anybody have links to appropriate references? I'm looking for the truth, if it exists. ]]> Electric Vehicles stevezzzz http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16675-Wanted-a-credible-EV-lifecycle-cost-study Volt Battery Thermal Management System in the Hot Arizona Sun http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16468-Volt-Battery-Thermal-Management-System-in-the-Hot-Arizona-Sun?goto=newpost Sat, 04 May 2013 02:20:29 GMT *Volt Battery Thermal Management System in the Hot Arizona Sun* By George S. Bower * What is the Volt Battery TMS Temperature Band? * What Happens... Volt Battery Thermal Management System in the Hot Arizona Sun
By George S. Bower
* What is the Volt Battery TMS Temperature Band?
* What Happens if the Volt is Parked all Day in Full Sun?
* What Happens if we Leave the Ignition (power) on?
http://gm-volt.com/2013/05/03/volt-b...t-arizona-sun/ ]]> Electric Vehicles scottf200 http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16468-Volt-Battery-Thermal-Management-System-in-the-Hot-Arizona-Sun April 2013 EV Sales http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16428-April-2013-EV-Sales?goto=newpost Fri, 03 May 2013 09:55:51 GMT Sales for Norway:

Electric car sales:
Car brand/model: April: March: February: January: 2013 YTD: April 2012: 2012:
Nissan Leaf: 455 297 287 265 1304 113 2298
Mitsubishi i-MiEV: 35 40 31 51 157 59 665
Peugeot iOn: 2 2 8 12 24 61 407
Citroen C-Zero: 0 2 4 8 14 20 513
Mia Electric: 0 0 3 0 3 1 11
Think: 1 0 1 1 3 0 18
Tesla Roadster: 1 1 0 0 2 4 32
Total: 494 342 334 337 1507 258 3949
Percent of total sales: 3.532% 3.186% 2.950% 2.895% 3.160% 2.372% 2.862%

Plug-in hybrid sales:
Car brand/model: April: March: February: January: 2013 YTD: April 2012: 2012:
Opel Ampera: 4 2 4 12 22 11 158
Fisker Karma: 0 0 1 0 1 0 6
Total: 4 2 5 12 23 11 341
Percent of total sales: 0.029% 0.019% 0.044% 0.103% 0.048% 0.101% 0.247%

Full figures for 2012

The Leaf is doing remarkably well here. This month it was the second most sold car! Only beaten by the VW Golf. (Though the Golf is ahead of the competition by a very wide margin, so the Leaf will be hard pressed to become the most sold car anytime soon.) ]]> Electric Vehicles Yggdrasill http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16428-April-2013-EV-Sales Volvo V60 Plug-in Hybrid http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16424-Volvo-V60-Plug-in-Hybrid?goto=newpost Fri, 03 May 2013 03:30:42 GMT Attachment 21326 (http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21326) Credit for this Picture goes to Volvo Cars and carsuk.net. I... Name: volvo_V60_plugin.jpg Views: 244 Size: 54.6 KB
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I couldn’t find a thread on this particular model… Anyways, it looks like Volvo Cars might have a small hit (?) in Europe with their V60 Plug-in Hybrid:

Volvo doubling V60 diesel PHEV production to 10,000 to meet demand

...a car that apparently costs about $80.000.

It’s just too bad that Volvo Cars currently, as I understand it, in reality is in fact owned by the very, very undemocratic Chinese dictatorial ‘government’. Which in turn of course, really, really sucks for someone (like me for example) with a Swedish citizenship...

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]]> Electric Vehicles SwedishAdvocate http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16424-Volvo-V60-Plug-in-Hybrid Bieber to invest in Fisker? http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16391-Bieber-to-invest-in-Fisker?goto=newpost Thu, 02 May 2013 14:29:23 GMT Justin Bieber to invest in Fisker car company (http://www.financialexpress.com/news/justin-bieber-to-invest-in-fisker-car-company/1110592) ... Justin Bieber to invest in Fisker car company

Unlikely, I'd think that he would have enough to pull their nose up? ]]> Electric Vehicles sp4rk http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16391-Bieber-to-invest-in-Fisker <![CDATA[Two more gems from FBN (1:47 & 4:02 min. long)]]> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16226-Two-more-gems-from-FBN-(1-47-amp-4-02-min-long)?goto=newpost Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:57:49 GMT …or that little furry animal ‘fair’ and ‘balanced’ ‘news’-corporation. With rabies. Allegedly.


"FBN’s Stuart Varney sounds off on the environmental issues with alternative-fuel vehicles."

The Pollution Problem with Electric Cars | Fox Business Video (1:47 min.)

"'Cool It' author Bjorn Lomborg on the CO2 emissions from the production and use of electric cars."

The Dirty Little Secret Behind Electric Cars? | Fox Business Video (4:02 min.)


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I just find it really amazing that in these segments there’s the back-story about mining the lithium for electric cars and how that adds to their environmental impact and yada yada yada… BUT, with ICE-vehicles the fuel somehow always magically just appears at the gas-pump!

Not a word about the environmental price behind the drilling rigs on land and at sea, the pipelines, the gigantic oil tankers, the refineries, the cisterns and the tanks, the tanker trucks and finally all the gas stations.

Just friggin amazing! ]]> Electric Vehicles SwedishAdvocate http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16226-Two-more-gems-from-FBN-(1-47-amp-4-02-min-long) <![CDATA["Don't Buy an Electric Car" Article from Fox]]> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16224-quot-Don-t-Buy-an-Electric-Car-quot-Article-from-Fox?goto=newpost Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:47:21 GMT Hmmm. I see why the writer lists himself as a "former senior executive of the high tech industry" :biggrin:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2013/04/05/dont-buy-electric-car/?intcmp=sem_outloud ]]> Electric Vehicles Teriyaki88 http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16224-quot-Don-t-Buy-an-Electric-Car-quot-Article-from-Fox Toyota ME.WE concept http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16154-Toyota-ME-WE-concept?goto=newpost Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:49:25 GMT http://jalopnik.com/toyotas-me-we-concept-is-an-electric-truck-car-convert-479338437 I would buy this EV. http://jalopnik.com/toyotas-me-we-co...vert-479338437


I would buy this EV. ]]> Electric Vehicles joshuaeven http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16154-Toyota-ME-WE-concept Pariss EV Roadster http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16137-Pariss-EV-Roadster?goto=newpost Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:52:19 GMT Another me-too electric roadster play, this time from France... Pariss Electric Roadster (http://pariss-electric.com/en/) Another me-too electric roadster play, this time from France...

Pariss Electric Roadster ]]> Electric Vehicles Martini http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16137-Pariss-EV-Roadster