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Old 06-13-2009, 03:39 PM   #141
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This is the big unknown which I cannot find any good information on. What is the manufacturing cost of a glider?
From what I know the Mitsubishi i ,which the imiev is based on, costs roughly $11k as a gasoline car, so it's pretty inexpensive even if they buy the whole car and rip out the gas engine. The gas car is already in mass production so it shouldn't be too expensive and it's based on their own car so they save even more money.

I have a hard time believing ~$45k doesn't cover their costs. If this is true, then this doesn't bode well for the Volt, which has the same size battery but in a base car that costs $17k, has a range extender, and a whole new interior and exterior design.

I believe the expensive price are partly from the Japanese market traditionally being higher cost, the two tax incentives allowing them to sell it at a higher price, low initial volume of EV components, and recouping R&D costs.
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:13 AM   #142
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Except they aren't exactly using cutting edge technology for the drive train as far as I can tell. Electric motor and controller, a BMS for the battery which is probably just voltage and temperature sensing, what's the big deal?
Offhand I agree but there have been a lot of automakers, large and small who dive into the whole EV space with that attitude making announchments and hoopla and (so far) have ended up with egg on their faces. (insert list here)

It's probably the difference between making a car yourself and being perfectly happy with all the "you have to jiggle the handle" problems as an owner with the same issues being totally unacceptable for a release to market vehicle.

I believe that is why Toyota is dragging their feet on EVs. They do not want to release a car that is not bulletproof and EVs (to them) are still too cutting edge for brainless operation.

The whole idea of having a 17K Electric car in the same decision pool as a 45K and an 80K car is thrilling!
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:44 PM   #143
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Mitsubishi Motors Aims to Cut Price of Electric Car (Update2) - Bloomberg.com
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:19 AM   #144
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The scary part is it sounds like they are keeping the name.


M-eye-EEE.?

MeeeV?

Eye Mev?

M eye EE Veee

How many millions did Hyundai spend on teaching us how to say their name (and it's still pronounced differently across the pond).
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That's the beauty of coming out high. Now the news leading up to the release is "price cut!" instead of what normally happens, "Price increase!"
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In case anyone missed it, EVnut was referring to the silver/black color scheme.
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"to less than 2 million yen ($21,000)"

That is a CHEAP car. I'd like to see them pull that off here... If they can, I'd say they won the EV for the masses race.
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"to less than 2 million yen ($21,000)"

That is a CHEAP car. I'd like to see them pull that off here... If they can, I'd say they won the EV for the masses race.
That's the right ballpark, certainly. Everybody expected it to be about $25k. It just won't fly at "almost model S" prices. But at half price, you betcha.
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