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01-04-2009, 10:20 AM
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Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winchester, UK Posts: 2,975 | An old Wired Article: Quote: |
What Eberhard didn't know about car manufacturing -- which was just about everything -- he got by hiring engineers and executives away from Lotus. Eventually, he lured so many Lotus employees that the British company insisted he sign a no-poaching agreement or it wouldn't build the car.
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01-05-2009, 06:51 AM
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01-05-2009, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stanford, California Posts: 3,606 | Lotus to Build Electric Vehicles Earth2Tech Quote: |
... Lotus also has an opportunity to avoid some of the pitfalls that hampered early movers. As the first luxury electric sports car startup to enter production, Tesla has learned a series of lessons the hard way. ... Tesla’s then-VP of sales, marketing and service, Darryl Siry, told us, “One of our lessons is that we need to have more control over our fate and manage the process in house.” Another lesson? Watch out for suppliers and contractors launching out on their own.
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01-05-2009, 12:27 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by doug | I don't know about the whole premise that everyone will do it themselves "in house." Tesla is the model for building an EV from a glider. It apparently works. Everyone wants to copy. Tesla is also outsourcing their drivetrains to other unknown companies.
Moreover, the economy is betting that mergers are needed for the bigger 3 to survive, which is opposite of those statements. Perhaps "in-house" means doing what Chrysler did with their EV...which is cobbling together some parts from OEMs in the Chrysler R&D facilities. I bet there is more conversion and consolidation than development.
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01-05-2009, 03:06 PM
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01-05-2009, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stanford, California Posts: 3,606 | Yeah, I'm not so sure about the "in house" bit either. I included that quote for this line: "Watch out for suppliers and contractors launching out on their own." It's too bad that Tesla isn't further along than they are at this stage. They had a major head start. Lotus Targets Tesla With An EV Of Its Own | Autopia from Wired.com Quote:
A bigger question is what the car will look like. Given that the Tesla Roadster is based on the Elise and Chrysler basically stuck a battery and a motor in a Europa and called it the Dodge EV, using those two models as the basis of an e-Lotus almost certainly are out. Lotus could convert an Evora with relative ease - it's a 2+2 with a mid-engine design, so there is plenty of room for a battery pack if Lotus yanks out the back seat like BMW did with the Mini-E. It's also a sleek, sexy car that would make EVs appealing to the sports car set.
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Whatever the case, an EV is a natural for Lotus. Beyond providing the platforms on which the Tesla and Dodge electric vehicles were built, Lotus builds the Roadster at its plant in Hethel, England, and provided technical help to Ecotricity, the British green-power company that is building an EV called the Wind Car.
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01-05-2009, 06:16 PM
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#27 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 586 | Good question. What would a Lotus EV look like. I for one would appreciate anything that would speed up the competition. In other words, convert anything they have in the arsenal.
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01-06-2009, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DDB In other words, convert anything they have in the arsenal. | Sports models seem to be a good starting point but there are major traps for the unwary; Calendar Life, Kerb Weight and Transmission.
What I love about Tesla's plans for Model S is that they are still challenging Auto Industry assumptions - the present one being that any four seater EV with a trunk and a bit of luxury has to be an EREV. |
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01-06-2009, 02:52 PM
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#29 | | Head Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stanford, California Posts: 3,606 | "Don't be surprised to see an electric Lotus shortly" : TreeHugger
Again, I really like the Evora interior. It's quite a step up from the Roadster's current interior. The central display can serve as a more visible integrated VDS and navigation system. And as a tall guy, I appreciate the D-cut steering wheel. |
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01-06-2009, 05:56 PM
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