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Re: Electric MINI revealed -- The Mini E
Old 12-19-2009, 07:23 PM   #131
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Re: Electric MINI revealed -- The Mini E

It's what I'd heard from the MINI E folk and might explain the lack of noise, that said I think the Tesla noise is mostly transmission gears so it might just be a quieter transmission configuration.

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Old 12-20-2009, 12:42 AM   #132
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LA 2008: Confirmed - AC Propulsion provided the electric drive systems for the MINI E — Autoblog Green
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...The MINI E uses a specially-developed version of AC Propulsion's proprietary tzeroTM technology to provide high performance, high efficiency, and fast charging. AC Propulsion's air-cooled copper-rotor induction motor produces maximum torque from zero to 5,000 rpm and spins all the way up to 13,000 rpm...





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Re: Electric MINI revealed -- The Mini E
Old 12-20-2009, 04:57 AM   #133
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Re: Electric MINI revealed -- The Mini E

That looks like it so, air cooled then, thanks.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:35 AM   #134
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My MINI E arrived this week
How many EVs does one man need? Congrats.

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I wonder if, with some thought BMW could put the batteries under the floor of a Clubman model to make a four seater with 150+ mile range. If they could I doubt that they could make enough to meet demand.

Not just a Clubman - a conversion house in London has done this with a normal car.

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Although, how many more of these they have built since is not clear.


In fact, in the FAQ section of the UK site, it actually addresses this. One of the reasons is the Clubman is too heavy and the second is that having the battery in the rear means it isn't as useful (in terms of what the Clubman is supposed to be for). I suspect taking the off the shelf ACP system is the origin of this restriction. Now that BMW are engineering their own systems, you get the underfloor battery of this new 1 Series ActiveE.


Although, while BMW won't make a Clubman, it isn't stopping these guys.

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Once it's completed, the extended MINI will be packing 54 kWh of lithium badness to power its AC motor. That should give it a real world 150-mile range, leaving the official MINI E from BMW crying for an extension cord. All that and a back seat too!
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:56 PM   #135
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Although, while BMW won't make a Clubman, it isn't stopping these guys.
I watched their project up to about episode 18... I checked in today; they're in the 30's now, it really went off the rails in the teens when they added intollerable background, no, foreground music, today it's like watching paint dry... they even speak slowly. In todays show they're discussing in detail, what happens when you don't pay your mortage on time, and then it finished... off the rails.

To be fair they're really getting into the details but, I'd prefer an abridged version... in 2012 when they're done.
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Jack is nothing if not thorough. I find downloading the show and jumping ahead through the parts I'm not interested in to be the best way. I think now that they have a machine shop that can actually make their motor adapter and coupler they should be making some good progress.
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Just read through some of the comments on the Mini Clubman conversion article (last link from dpeilow). Jack commented (guy doing the conversion) and said they are not going to do regen the way Tesla and BMW did it. He said they are going to connect it to the brake pedal. He seems to be under the impression that the brake lights do not turn on when regen kicks in on the Tesla and Mini E. From what I know the Tesla does activate the brake lights when regen is activated and I'd only be guessing for the Mini E, but I would guess it does also for safety reasons.

It's cool to see him doing this, but from his first comment on the article there is just something that I don't like about the way it portrays him. I don't know if it is his attitude (the way he makes it seem like the way Tesla and BMW did the regen is the wrong way and should have never been done like that ) or what, I can't really put my finger on it.

MPT, how come you just got a Mini E?

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He mentioned it before, here.
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It's cool to see him doing this, but from his first comment on the article there is just something that I don't like about the way it portrays him.
Jack comes on strong and tells it the way he sees it. I don't always agree with him but most of the time he's right on the money. He spends a lot of his time and money testing and destroying batteries so the rest of us DIY types don't have to.
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He mentioned it before, here.
I must not have completely read that part. Thanks.

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