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Old 10-07-2008, 05:29 PM   #11
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Autobloggreen reports that Daimler will build 12,000 - 15,000 smart EVs per year:

Mercedes to add C and E class hybrids by 2011 in U.S.; 12,000 smart EVs in four years - AutoblogGreen

That would be a BIG deal for Tesla if they are providing the powertrain.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:50 PM   #12
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Wow! That would be a huge deal! I can't imagine M-B single-sourcing the battery if they could find more than one supplier, but even if Tesla has only a part of a deal like that it would be big.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:55 PM   #13
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Wow! That would be a huge deal! I can't imagine M-B single-sourcing the battery if they could find more than one supplier, but even if Tesla has only a part of a deal like that it would be big.
I'm skeptical they can ramp up production to meet demand of that many packs. I think it'd be another Th!nk deal. Bad punn.
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Old 01-13-2009, 02:28 PM   #14
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Jalopnik says it'll cost $49,900. I don't really trust their reporting, doesn't make much sense to charge that much:
Smart EV: Tesla To Supply Battery Packs For The Smart EV
If that is true, then it shouldn't be too hard to figure out battery pricing on a sliding scale if the capacity for this new Smart is known...
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Detroit 2009: more details on the smart ed's 2010 US introduction - AutoblogGreen
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:39 AM   #16
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Do we have any idea of the projected range of the Smart? If Elon called it a city car it might have 50 miles of range with a small pack to keep the cost down.
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Smart ED launch is US will be low volume
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Smart ED launch is US will be low volume

look slike very litmited numbers are slotted for the US, available only by lease to "premium" buyers. Incidentally, this is odd to me from a strategic standpoint because the US is a critical market to understand for a short range EV and also they have a very important ZEV requirement to meet from the CARB mandate. I would have assumed the majority of the Smart EDs would have been depoloyed in CA.

from Automotive News (sub req'd) so I cut and paste the text here (don't tell anyone)

Low volume launch for electric Smart in the US


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February 2, 2009 06:01 CET


DETROIT -- Smart’s electric-powered ForTwo will be limited to several hundred vehicles for its US launch in 2010.
The car will be available in just a few US cities, said Anders-Sundt Jensen, vice president for Smart brand communications.
“We will launch it first in Berlin, then in Paris and Rome and we will continue to expand to other European cities,” Jensen said.
Among the cities under consideration for the first US sales are San Francisco and Austin, Texas. In 2012, the electric Smart will be offered in more cities.
Jensen said the electric Smart likely will be offered only with leases. Although it is too early to estimate the monthly lease payment, the car will have a premium price.
“The technology is quite expensive. Because the technology is an untraditional powertrain, you have a special customer requesting it. They are willing to pay a higher price,” Jensen said at the Detroit auto show.
The electric-powered ForTwo will go into production at the end of the year. Power will be supplied by lithium ion batteries that have a range of 100 kilometers to 110km.
Jensen said the electric-powered ForTwo eventually could account for 20 to 50 percent of Smart’s global production.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:11 AM   #18
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Interesting. Still a ways off as a possible "for the masses" vehicle.
Lease only at a "premium price" isn't what I was hoping to hear.
At least they do have plans to get some to the USA.
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Geneva 2009: Brabus smart ed revealed

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From dpeilow's linked article:

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Tesla has sold more than 150 electric roadsters at $109K, showed a $128,500 high-performance version (the Tesla Sport) at Detroit and promises a $60K electric sedan - but recently admitted that the roadster costs $140K to build.
I saw this article the other day and commented on it. Tesla should do some damage control with this myth. Unfortunately, they fanned the flames with it earlier this year with the excuse for raising the 2008 prices.

They claim the roadster at $109K makes a modest profit. Both this article and the article from earlier today about Elon "spying on his employees" presents as fact that the Roadster loses money on every sale. I do not believe this is currently true, but it seems to be the conventional wisdom out there. I wish Tesla would correct these myths.
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