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Old 01-22-2009, 08:05 PM   #41
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:24 PM   #42
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Yeah, James, I actually thought about that one too...

You can get about 1300watts per outlet.
To charge a 50kWh pack in 10 minutes you need 300,000watts.
So 230 extension cords, give or take...

According to my kw meter, my Vectrix electric scooter pulls at peak 1600 watts and 14-15 amps for about 3 hours during the charging cycle.
That is on a normal 110 volt 20 amp outlet.
3.7 kwh nickel battery

So if each extention cord provides 1600 watts, then it is only a mere 187 outlets that are required for the 10 minute recharge.

I think most homes provide for 100 amp service, so as long as nothing else is drawing electricity in the homes, you could access about 6 outlets per house. So you would only need to recruit about 30 of your neighbors plus your own house.

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:36 PM   #43
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On a slightly related note, I just heard today that Tesla has a new supplier for the HPC.

The HPC that is being provided now is able to recharge at 240 volts, 90 amps. That reduces the recharge for the Roadster to about 2 hr 45 min from empty.

But you really need to be sure that your house can handle it. Is your house limited to 100 amps? Or can it go higher. Consult an electrician.

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Old 01-23-2009, 12:37 AM   #44
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SSC Announces Electric Powertrain and Ultimate Aero EV Specifications
WEST RICHLAND, WA (01/22/2009)



Shelby SuperCars (SSC) released today the details of its revolutionary All-Electric Scalable Powertrain, the AESP. SSC will incorporate its AESP into thecurrent Ultimate Aero to create the Ultimate Aero EV. Being the "World's Fastest Production Car," SSC decided the Ultimate Aero to be the perfect high visibility outlet to demonstrate the capabilities of its new Green powertrain. Directly following the debut of the Ultimate Aero EV, SSC will conduct a live media event to showcase the capabilities of its revolutionary Green powertrain.

SSC will display its AESP in the Ultimate Aero EV in order to prove that electric-powered vehicles will not only match but also provide more linear power (electric motors have 100% torque at 0 RPM) and overall performance than internal combustion cars. The Ultimate Aero EV utilizes a twin motor AESP producing an astounding 1,000 HP and 800 lb-ft of torque enabling it to rocket to 60 mph in a mere 2.5 seconds and reach a top speed of 208 mph. Not only does the Ultimate Aero EV have a range of 150-200 miles on a single charge, but SSC's "Charge on the RunTM" onboard charging system allows for 10 minute full battery recharges on a 220 outlet. SSC's 3-speed automatic transmission transfers the Ultimate Aero EV's power to its wheels and achieves electronically controlled shift times of .24 s. The entire AESP is liquid cooled allowing it to run for extended periods of time at peak performance with no overheating issues.

SSC's Green division, SSC Green, Inc., will provide packaged solutions of its AESP to a wide variety of applications ranging from 200 horsepower for economy and midsize cars, to 500 horsepower for light trucks and SUVs, and up to 1,200 horsepower for delivery trucks, heavy-duty equipment, buses and military vehicles.

SSC expects to roll out its first full-scale, pre-production Ultimate Aero EV in second quarter 2009. Ultimate Aero EV deliveries will start as early as fourth quarter 2009. SSC will pursue the title of "World's Fastest Production Electric Car" and conduct a marketing campaign consisting of international motor shows, magazine articles, TV appearances and live media events. Most importantly, SSC will conduct a live media event at one of America's superspeedways to prove its claims. During this event SSC Founder and Lead Designer, Jerod Shelby, and notable guests will drive laps at high speed pitting only to demonstrate the quick recharge times. SSC asks any interested media to send a request to AeroEVMedia@sscautos.com.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:06 AM   #45
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SSC expects to roll out its first full-scale, pre-production Ultimate Aero EV in second quarter 2009.

Mechanical engineering - full marks
Electrical engineering - do the math. Again!
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Mechanical engineering - full marks

Hmm not sure. I sense a Tesla DT 1.0 change of motor speed / gearbox issue coming on again.
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Old 01-23-2009, 05:18 AM   #47
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Oh well. Let's sit back and enjoy the delays.
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You'd think with 5 months to go before demonstrating this car to the press and public, they would have a mule running around and have something to verify these claims. Do they think this just a case of taking an ICE car and slapping in some batteries and a couple of 500 bhp motors?
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Not only does the Ultimate Aero EV have a range of 150-200 miles on a single charge, but SSC's "Charge on the RunTM" onboard charging system allows for 10 minute full battery recharges on a 220 outlet.
220 what? kV?


Oops - just seen TEG did a similar joke back up the thread. Sorry

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Not much new in this press release compared to the earlier one. (And you'd think they would have figured out the math in the meantime.) I think the timing might have something to do with trying to take advantage of the current negative news about Tesla.
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