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Old 07-17-2008, 11:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Has anyone considered that in the second MY for the Karma, Fisker may offer a pure BEV option?
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:55 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Irvine, Calif.-based Fisker Automotive is going to Finland for the production of its first plug-in hybrid, announcing today that Valmet Automotive, which makes Porsche's Boxter and Cayman models, will produce the Karma sedan beginning in the fourth quarter of 2009.



Oh yeah, Fisker has taken approx. 1,000 orders for the Karma.

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Old 07-21-2008, 10:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, Fisker has taken approx. 1,000 orders for the Karma.
Count my wife as one of those.
It's "only" $1K to hold a spot. She dearly loves her Saab but she recently crossed the 100K mark and will be shopping soon.

It's a bit disconcerting that there is a chance we will loose the money if the company goes under and the price of all (Model S, Volt, Karma) these cars is high for us but the prices keep going up so we look at it as some sort of investment.
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Old 07-21-2008, 10:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey Guys,

Has anyone else on here considered / placed an order on the Karma? Based on my driving needs I would prefer a series hybrid option over a BEV. I liked the idea of being able to draw on two energy sources that already has a significant infrastructure in place and is practically "ubiquitous".

Although Model S is not completely out of the picture for me, if it cannot satisfy my needs I guess I'm left with either the Karma or the Volt. Given Fisker's lack of experience in after -sales service, technological / engineering know-how (in automotive applications such as drivetrains), and their history with Tesla would anyone consider the Karma as good alternative?
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Count my wife as one of those.
It's "only" $1K to hold a spot. She dearly loves her Saab but she recently crossed the 100K mark and will be shopping soon.

It's a bit disconcerting that there is a chance we will loose the money if the company goes under and the price of all (Model S, Volt, Karma) these cars is high for us but the prices keep going up so we look at it as some sort of investment.
Congrats. The small deposit thing worked for the Smart car. I'm more likely to go with the Volt, but it all sort of depends what is available when. It's just nice to see Fisker outsourced production to someone that can obviously handle it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Just saw an article in a Norwegian car website saying Valmet did not get a renewal for their Porsche contract beyond 2011, which might be the reason they've got capacity to build the Karma. If they are still building Porsches at full speed until 2011 I have a hard time seeing how they will build many Karmas at the same time. Anyone else knows anything about this?

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Old 08-06-2008, 04:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Valmet must be capable of operating a flexible assembly operation where they can assemble different vehicles for different customers from the same facilities.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:13 AM   #18 (permalink)
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There's no doubt there, the question I'm asking is in regard to space on that flexible production line. If they can make 10 cars a day and 8 of them are Porsches until 2011, then only 2 of them can be Karmas.

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