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Old 11-16-2007, 08:40 AM   #31 (permalink)
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There would certainly be a lot more engineering required to integrate ultra-caps. One point brought up is that the voltage range from 'full' to 'empty' is much greater, so your PEM/inverter electronics would be more complicated.

Then there is the price/availability question...
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:40 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I have always thought Tesla should be using the "dual" system of Ultracaps and Lith batts to reduce the strain of stop and go driving on the cars chemical based power source.
Problem is, current ultracaps may not suffice. They bring too little on the table to be worth the effort, cost, added complexity and possible points of failure.

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One point brought up is that the voltage range from 'full' to 'empty' is much greater, so your PEM/inverter electronics would be more complicated.
Has anyone found out what could be done? Wide range DC/DC converters are supposed to be inefficient - efficient only in thin voltage range.

Sometime ago I was thinking of dynamically reconfigurable ultracap grid. When fully charged it would be mostly parallel connections, then as it discharges, the connections would reconfigure into serial ones keeping the outcoming voltage higher. Trouble is, this could be done as long the ultracap-storage still contained most of the total charge.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Sometime ago I was thinking of dynamically reconfigurable ultracap grid. When fully charged it would be mostly parallel connections, then as it discharges, the connections would reconfigure into serial ones keeping the outcoming voltage higher.
From my semi-naive standpoint that sounds like an idea with some potential.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:38 PM   #35 (permalink)
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New hope for a successful EEStore?

GM-Volt.com Lockheed Martin Signs Agreement with EEStor
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:08 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The Lockheed Martin article offers huge potential. Downside is lack of a prototype.

Assuming EEStor produces a battery (or equivalent) that gets > 500 mpc why would the volt even require an RE? Would be simpler and less expensive to make it a pure EV.

Hope WhiteStar decision makers are aware of EEStor’s progress.
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Technology Review: A New Deal for EEStor
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:32 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Lockheed has not seen a working prototype but said that qualification testing and mass production of EEStor's system is planned for late 2008.
I was hoping at least they've seen some actual product as those test were also planned long time ago. I am not counting on them any more. If they will come out with something then great, otherwise we'll just live with LiIon.

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Old 01-24-2008, 05:12 AM   #39 (permalink)
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GM-Volt.com has a great interview with regards to the EESTOR. It's getting difficult not to get my hopes up.

As well as the Lockheed news there was also this.
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