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Not seeing this on the app

Agreed. Elon tweeted a few weeks ago “Tesla prices must change frequently in order to match production with demand.” So demand must be much higher than production rn, and then demand tails off as the fall/winter comes but production remains constant.

Ooof. $54,990 Must be crazy demand rn. Hoping for some price drops at the end of the year to get ultra red back under $55k!

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Maybe a dumb question, but does changing the wheels to a non staggered setup affect anything on the car? Alignment?

You’ll get 1 of 2 if you’re patient lol

Boat boat boat. I’ve started something here folks 🛳️🛳️🛳️

Medium boat obviously 😁

MS is a large boat, M3 is small boat. Plan accordingly. Brand new M3P every day for me over a used, old MS. MS is starting to look dated also, needs a refresh soon.

I think 300 miles at 70 mph (in decent weather) is bout the max you’ll get 100 to 0

The battery is the limiting factor in the Model 3. 82 kWh is relatively small. If you had a 100 kWh battery then Tesla could really open it up more. But then you would likely be on a bigger platform, aka Model S.

Literally what I am doing. Killer deal right now on wheels when you get the Hankook ION tires - 10% off + free shipping + $120 rebate. Probably around $700 off in total. No idea what you/I will actually get back for the stock 20” wheels, but I’m sure someone will want them.

Engineering vehicle

Could be. Was on engineering vehicle. Part catalog leak below for ref

Wheels that may be in track package at some point. Match part catalog leak last year. Personally don’t like any more or less than the warp wheels but YMMV

Gotta ceramic it

Rims only or “wheels” aka rims with tires on them? 4 “wheels” do not fit across the back seat. 4 rims (no tires) is probably doable. 19” for reference

I personally have transported 4 19” wheels before. You can barely fit two in the trunk of the M3 (struggled to get the trunk to close) so two 20” may be too big. You have to “sneakily” get the other two in the back seat, which is not easy and again 19” not 20”. Not saying it can’t be done, but...

Agreed, but transporting 4 19” wheels to a delivery appt is easier said than done. And then also transporting the 4 20” wheels after they swap lol.

Also maybe this is considered off topic or the wrong forum, but there was a bill filed in the senate to repeal the EV tax credit effective 30 days after enactment. So those who told me earlier I shouldn’t worry about the IRA getting repealed, should the dynamics of US politics change here in 6...

Gunna be great when I take delivery on December 30th with summer tires when it’s 30 degrees outside.

Which is when I’m buying the ultra red config 😁 but also don’t overestimate Tesla demand right now. It’s the lowest it’s been in years

Wait an hour and check again. Prices change all the time. It’ll be under the $55k cap again once Tesla clears out the initial demand

People say “the rims fit” but then they clarify and say “the rims fit with spacers.” None of the Tesla OEM 18” or 19” rims fit the P trim without spacers (except new Warp 19” in China).

So it sounds like the 2024 P will be perfect then! With the adaptive suspension I imagine one can tune it to his/her liking also. I am ok with stiff suspension. But there is a very clear difference between stiff and harsh. The old Tesla suspension is HARSH.

Same here. Plus the suspension is allegedly 1000x better even without the adaptive suspension. I hate the suspension so much on my 21 LR.

I bent a rim on my current 19” with all seasons on a pothole. Granted this was more like a sinkhole than a pothole and I didn’t see it, but still lol. So yeah 20” are a hard no for me. 19” look better aesthetically than 18” also.

They aren’t directional tires, so you don’t need to dismount the tire. Just move the entire wheel side to side on the car. But yes minimal benefit anyways bc you can’t swap front to back.

It’s not the tires (but they are summer tires that probably won’t last awhile), it’s the staggered rim size setup. The front tires may get 40k but def not the rears. The rear tires will be shot long before the fronts bc you can’t rotate them (except side to side) and all the power and torque...

Didn’t they sandbag the old M3P numbers though? 3.1 seconds with rollout advertised and I thought people were getting 3.0-3.1 without rollout in real world

It’s just white protective wrapping guys lol. They always ship like that

The new rear motor on the P may draw more power than the LR motor as a baseline, but I agree with your conclusion. I think the LR better went back to a 78 kWh battery too vs the P 82 kWh pack, which likely makes them neck and neck again on range.

Oh wow good catch. It just auto chose them for staggered fit

They already have the 2024 M3P as an option to search for tires. Here’s the link to the tires, but it will likely say “please enter your vehicle” to make sure these tires fit. Probably just not available everywhere yet. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/pirelli-p-zero-pz4

Check again. They have both.

Tire Rack already has the OEM summer Pirelli’s for sale…$435 per tire 🤢 280 UTC grading lol gunna last 10k miles max. Definitely gunna have to replace with 19” rims and all season tires for me…likely the Hankook ION EVOs for only $267 each for 19”

Yeah so essentially your rears will need to be replaced very often. Probably 2 sets of rears for every 1 set of fronts most likely.

I think you meant LG NMC and Panasonic NCA. It is clear the LG battery is limiting the power output for the MIC Model 3 P. So the question is - why is the LG battery “not as good” as the Panasonic NCA USA made battery? Why is the LG battery not made to the same standards as the Panasonic USA...

They aren’t really plugs, just smaller aero clips. See pic from China M3 below.

I think you’ll be able to order the other smaller caps for the wheels. Been waiting for an update to the owners manual and parts listing but Tesla hasn’t done it yet.

Said another way - demand isn’t linear, but production is. Spacing out demand is what they want so they can better match production. And if you can space out demand and increase margin at the same time, winner winner chicken dinner for Tesla.

So LG or BYD can’t make a good NCA battery like Panasonic? That was my question/point.

For sure, but there is some method to the madness when it comes to pricing

They dropped the black color price $500 and the price of white seats $500 after raising the base price $1,000, so it seems they are doing that. You need to remember the actual cost of producing the cars also. Like ultra red is an expensive paint option bc it costs Tesla more money to produce it...

Agree 100%. Tesla is capitalizing on the demand and hype of the new Highland and P trim releases. If they raise the P trim over $55k, demand evaporates instantaneously. For a real world example, I myself won’t buy one then lol. The LR price will drop for sure also. It’s $1,750 higher now than at...

This is obviously an opinion, but with interest rates as they are I don’t think low production and high demand will be the issue. Most people live on monthly payments anyways. Once the hype of this release dies down, macroeconomic conditions don’t really project any meaningful sustained demand...

I don’t have a P but I have a 2021 LR with AB and am ready to upgrade in December. A bunch of reasons for me: some applicable to all, some personal to me. 1. Suspension changes is #1 for me. My current M3 is such a harsh ride. It’s brutal (and I’m not certain shelling out $$$ for aftermarket...

“Heavily” discounted? 3 years from now. $1-$3k less? December.

Wait an hour, the price will drop again 😁